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  1. #1041
    Quote Originally Posted by Meiffert View Post
    Wheezing Harsies going prot warrior (for Spell Reflect) and Havoc (for high ST burst) for Upper Kara. Their setup was tailored to 1-phase Medivh and save huge amount of time. How are the commentators supposed to know that when even Raider.IO didn't think of it and changed their own setup for this dungeon after watching the replay?
    It was tailored to not be complete trash in there for the classes they were comfortable. Wheezing Harsies could go a lot further if their DH was comfortable on other tanks himself.
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    which is kind of like saying "of COURSE you can't see the unicorns, unicorns are invisible, silly."

  2. #1042
    Quote Originally Posted by Dorfie View Post
    Don't think so but I could answer a couple questions here
    Are you guys ok with the solution of blizzard in upper karazhan? I mean some of the viewers are very upset about it, but at the End the only thing that matter is, what the finalists are thinking about that. :-)

    If you are ok with the outcome of the match, we have no further reason to be upset.

  3. #1043
    I'd hope same as the state of WOD pvp brought spotlight to the Human racial ultimately leading to the nerf of it, this m+ invitational will bring spotlight to the Blood Elf racial, it was common to see everyone on the team Blood Elf except Druids (for obvious reason).

  4. #1044
    Quote Originally Posted by Millyraynge View Post
    Are you guys ok with the solution of blizzard in upper karazhan? I mean some of the viewers are very upset about it, but at the End the only thing that matter is, what the finalists are thinking about that. :-)

    If you are ok with the outcome of the match, we have no further reason to be upset.
    We didn't understand what happened until after the tournament when we went through the vods. I think if we knew at the time we would have appealed to the admins.

    Regarding HoV, it's one of those dungeons that can be won or lost on the first pull. A good example would be Vault which we saw a lot of in the quarters. Every team was going in with full CDs for a big pull and if you have a few deaths or a wipe there and waste your cool downs and the other team gets it down clean you've bascially just lost it at that point, which was the case in a lot of the vaults. Same thing in HoV, however it's a dungeon that teams would have practiced far less since it wasn't a starting map so getting that clean start in on the first try is much harder. To have a messy start then get a restart after being refreshed on all the mechanics is pretty fortunate imo.

    With the Upper it's a bit harder to say. We wiped on the last boss and had to run back past the trash we had skipped on the bridge. If you saw the tournament you can see this was a complete mess, the shadow melds failed so we had to pylon our entire team, die again, and then back track to rest our warlock. So we had our run back time, 5 extra deaths and then back tracking to res all added up. Free Marsy also skipped a pack on the bridge with invis potions, but were ressed at the boss after a lengthy wait. If they instead had to run back and cleanly skipped or killed the trash again they would have won anyway, but if they dealt with it as poorly as we did we would have won. Say for example we also had a release bug and spent the same time dead as them. We repull the boss first and win. We were given the chance to make mistakes on our run back, which we did and that ended up costing us. The other team didn't have the chance to make or lose time on their run back, it was all up to the admin intervention. I honestly don't know how it should have ended.

    That's bascially our teams thoughts on those two maps. We would have liked to get it appealed during the tournament but like I said we didn't know what actually happened until it was too late. Free Marsy played great though and we're happy we were able to have a double Aussie finals. The tournament was a blast to play overall. It's just a shame that so much of the discussion is focused on the bugs and not on the game play.
    Last edited by Dorfie; 2017-10-04 at 01:32 AM.

  5. #1045
    Quote Originally Posted by Meiffert View Post
    Wheezing Harsies going prot warrior (for Spell Reflect) and Havoc (for high ST burst) for Upper Kara. Their setup was tailored to 1-phase Medivh and save huge amount of time. How are the commentators supposed to know that when even Raider.IO didn't think of it and changed their own setup for this dungeon after watching the replay?
    .
    Btw how u spell reflect on Mediv? I tryed to press spell reflect in start of channel cast and it didnt nothing except reflecting damage. no additional + dmg buff on mediv.
    When i have to use? In last milisecond of cast?

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