Can't we all just get along? And have enormous nuclear arsenals.
The more nukes the less war. History bears it out. Give me some of that sweet mutually assured annihilation.
Can't we all just get along? And have enormous nuclear arsenals.
The more nukes the less war. History bears it out. Give me some of that sweet mutually assured annihilation.
i guess, if you consider europe civilized and high quality of life. i personally cant consider any place where i cant do a fat hitler salute anywhere i damn please. hard to call that a civilized country and they are in control of the whole european union. just wait till their craziness reaches other areas. much like i told you guys 2-3 years ago about the refugee problem you were about to have.
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We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
uhh what? went from the dark times to raping and pillaging africa to killing off natives in both south and north america. then couple hundred years later started world wars... at what point did those values stick? 1950 - now? lol
while i like white people and dont hold grudges lets be fucking real.
There's no specific date, enlightenment values don't just hit you one day and that means your perfect and peaceful. Before a few hundred years ago no other society had a population with a lasting culture of criticism, where authority over truth(ie kings, government, god, the church, etc) were challenged in an institutional manner.
I think it would have been better if the questioned were phrased as fighting a war for Europe rather than for individual countries. There still might be a lot masochism, but at least it wouldn't be as directly associated with WW2 nationalism.
The Dutch seem to be even more ashamed, which kind of ruins that line of reasoning.
I'm not willing to fight for my country because I'm not getting hurt physically or mentally in a stupid war some asshole politicians started. You can call me a coward and you may be right, but if I'm a coward and alive while all the brave people die that makes me the smart one.
You won't have to worry about whether you'll do it or not, since if the need is considered dire by the ruling party you will be conscripted.
You're getting exactly what you deserve.
Yeah, I think a lot of people are the same way, me included.
The problem with the article is, we're not really getting the question / questions that were asked. If literally the only question asked was "Are you willing to fight for your country?" that lacks any sort of depth and pretty much render the entire article moot.
If you asked, the following, there's no doubt the percentages would be all over the board, and they all ask the oversimplified question of 'Would you fight for your country?"
- "If your country were attacked and your loved ones put as risk, would you fight for your country?"
vs
- "If your country were to get involved in an ally countries war, would you fight with your country along side them?"
vs
- "If your country felt it had something to game by going to war with another country, would you fight for your country?"
The idea of fighting "for one's country" is mostly a myth. A boast that some use to appear valorous. The few who are actually brainwashed sufficiently to believe such nationalistic ideologies can be safely ignored.
People fight to protect themselves and those they love. They fight for a pay check. They fight cause they're good at it, and doing something you're good at feels good. They fight because joining the army seemed like a good idea at the time and now circumstances dictate that they must fight.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -Thomas Jefferson
So smart people don't care if someone invades them and fucks them over? Doesn't sound smart to me.
Me thinks Chromie has a whole lot of splaining to do!
I see what you're saying but in a way a Finn interprets the question as "would you defend your country against a foreign agressor" where as a Spaniard might be thinking "would you join your country on a raid of poor 3rd world country's oil resources." So the way you interpret the question means something too.
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"This will be a fight against overwhelming odds from which survival cannot be expected. We will do what damage we can."
-- Capt. Copeland
I'd fight to defend my country from a clear aggressor.
I wouldn't fight a war at the ass end of nowhere because some knuckleheads got into their skulls that killing brown people is cool then tried to sell it to me as the right thing because muh patriotism/nationalism.