What (WoW) computer would you prefer - POLL

[Deleted]

Hi, I'm starting to play WoW again and will need a desktop. Please vote and tell why you choose the build you choosed.

Budget

CPU: i3 7100
GPU: GeForce GTX 1050 2 GB
MOBO: Intel B250
DDR4: DDR4, 8GB, 2400Mhz
HDD: 1 TB
PSU: Lenovo
Case: Lenovo Minitower

Total cost: 550 $

Mid Range build

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 Windforce 2X OC 3 GB
MOBO: Asus Prime B350-Plus
DDR4: Corsair Vengeance LPX Black, DDR4, PC21300/2666MHz, CL16 8GB
HDD: WD Blue WD10EZEX 64MB 1TB
PSU: Seasonic S12II-620Bronze 620W
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox 5

Total cost: 750 $

Upper-Mid Range Build

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 Windforce 2X OC 3 GB
MOBO: GA-AB350N-Gaming WIFI
DDR4: Corsair Vengeance LPX Black, DDR4, PC21300/2666MHz, CL16 8GB
SSD: Samsung 960 EVO Series 250GB
GPU-Cooler: Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4
PSU: Seasonic Prime Gold 650W
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M
This build is aimed at being upgraded in the future, thus money spent on expensive high quality parts, such as the PSU and Case

Total cost: 1200 $

[Fafnar]

None of the above. The Budget one looks a bit underpowered and could use an SSD to be nicer. SSDs are pretty cheap.

Don't know why you went Ryzen for the next two builds.

Try giving the Budget one an SSD and the mid-range case and you should have a nice enough machine imho.

[Thunderball]

If you need a build solely for WoW 7600K is your best bet right now, but I would wait for Coffee Lake.

[Deleted]

None of the above. The Budget one looks a bit underpowered and could use an SSD to be nicer. SSDs are pretty cheap.

Don't know why you went Ryzen for the next two builds.

Try giving the Budget one an SSD and the mid-range case and you should have a nice enough machine imho.

What's wrong with the middle and upper-range? AMD4 sockets will last for at least 2 generations, and are much cheaper than intel processors, furthermore is the gap between Ryzen and intel at 10% in single core performance, and negligible in multi-threading. This gives near 5 fps lower at tops 10 fps. If I would stream and do many things on my computer at once, then amd-cores would be more preferable.

The budget one is an extremly good price, it is complete build and a better case would be possible due to the extremly good price at 550$. Let me know if you can get a better price at that build.

[Kagthul]

What's wrong with the middle and upper-range? AMD4 sockets will last for at least 2 generations, and are much cheaper than intel processors, furthermore is the gap between Ryzen and intel at 10% in single core performance, and negligible in multi-threading. This gives near 5 fps lower at tops 10 fps. If I would stream and do many things on my computer at once, then amd-cores would be more preferable.

The budget one is an extremly good price, it is complete build and a better case would be possible due to the extremly good price at 550$. Let me know if you can get a better price at that build.

Use a Pentium-G 4560 instead. The performance difference between that and the i3 is nonexistent, really, and its about HALF the price.

example:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2kH7bj
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2kH7bj/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($78.87 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: *ASRock - B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($61.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: *Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($59.85 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: *EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB GAMING Video Card ($209.68 @ OutletPC)
Case: *DIYPC - MA01-G MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($21.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: *EVGA - BV 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($31.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $504.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-13 15:50 EDT-0400

You could even knock off a few more bucks by dropping to an H110 motherboard (most are shipping with updated EFI that supports Kaby Lake - just check before you order).

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Also, there is literally zero reason of any kind to get a R5 1600X over a 1600.

Just get the 1600 and OC it to the same clocks as the 1600X.

AMD actually has a few too many SKUs, really. Some are made pointless by the fact that tone SKU below them can literally be OCed (even on the stock cooler) to match.

[Salty Maud]

Which would i prefer? The best performing option ofc. The question is rather how expensive of a system does your budget allow?

If you need a build solely for WoW 7600K is your best bet right now, but I would wait for Coffee Lake.

This. 8350k might be worth considering assuming it is competitively priced and OCs to at least match 7600k (or 7700k if it turns out to be hyperthreaded as rumored, but i doubt that). For wow specifically i would not consider anything AMD has to offer due to their lower clocks and wows reliance on singlethreaded performance.

[Enfilade]

Where's the "None of the Above" option? Your best bet is to either build with a Pentium, or wait until Coffee Lake. AMD has no place in WoW, as the game is very single-core dependent; Intel shines in that department.

[anveena]

I'd get a 1700, 1070 and a 500GB SSD for $1200.

[Enfilade]

I'd get a 1700, 1070 and a 500GB SSD for $1200.

For just WoW? Dream on. He could build with a Pentium and a 1050Ti/1060 for half the price.

[Linkedblade]

If you just want to play wow. The budget build is good. Just replace the 7100 with the G4500/G4600 and take that extra money and upgrade to the 1050ti. Same cpu performance and better graphics fidelity. Otherwise if you want to spend more or do other and better things, than give us the budget you are willing to use on a build.

[smooshtheman]

Hi, I'm starting to play WoW again and will need a desktop. Please vote and tell why you choose the build you choosed.

Budget

CPU: i3 7100
GPU: GeForce GTX 1050 2 GB
MOBO: Intel B250
DDR4: DDR4, 8GB, 2400Mhz
HDD: 1 TB
PSU: Lenovo
Case: Lenovo Minitower

Total cost: 550 $

Mid Range build

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 Windforce 2X OC 3 GB
MOBO: Asus Prime B350-Plus
DDR4: Corsair Vengeance LPX Black, DDR4, PC21300/2666MHz, CL16 8GB
HDD: WD Blue WD10EZEX 64MB 1TB
PSU: Seasonic S12II-620Bronze 620W
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox 5

Total cost: 750 $

Upper-Mid Range Build

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 Windforce 2X OC 3 GB
MOBO: GA-AB350N-Gaming WIFI
DDR4: Corsair Vengeance LPX Black, DDR4, PC21300/2666MHz, CL16 8GB
SSD: Samsung 960 EVO Series 250GB
GPU-Cooler: Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4
PSU: Seasonic Prime Gold 650W
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M
This build is aimed at being upgraded in the future, thus money spent on expensive high quality parts, such as the PSU and Case

Total cost: 1200 $

Fail. niether....

[moremana]

Fail. niether....

Fail | neither .. would mean a choice of two. See what I did there?

OT: if your only playing WoW, then the budget build except the i3 switch to 4560. That way you could either get a ssd or a GTX 1050Ti

If you intend on playing other games, then that would depend on the games.

Personally I would wait for Coffee Lake.

[Karon]

they're all shit.

[reemi]

None too.

my built is a i7 6700k OC with H90 cooler. OC at ~4.6Ghz
SSD, 32 RAM, MB GAMING 3, and a GTX 970 (old model but a 1060 should be perfect)
And wow run at 90fps in Dalaran, up to 150 in quests zones. (ultra)

I don't think it will cost more that your best setup.

if you want it cheaper, replace i7 by i5 and remove the cooler.

But a new PC without a SSD isnt a good PC for me.

And 650W is enough, my computer use 340 W when playing WoW (Watt meter test)

[PhantasmagoriaX]

i would add some extra ram to whatever computer you pick, go with 16 gigs of ram.

[Lathais]

i would add some extra ram to whatever computer you pick, go with 16 gigs of ram.

Can you give a good reason for that?
https://www.techspot.com/article/104...ram/page3.html
Those are some of the most RAM hungry games out there and the difference between 4GB and 16GB is either non-existent or at most a whopping 4FPS. Yeah, if you have more RAM, games will use more RAM. That extra usage does not give you any performance gains though, even with 65 Chrome Tabs open using 2.2 GB of RAM. Most gamers, unless they are multitasking even heavier than that, would still be fine with 4GB RAM. I am not recommending 4GB, I still recommend 8GB, don't take that wrong, however, on a budget build, 4GB is still plenty and for your average build 8GB is still more than enough. Unless you are building an enthusiast rig, no need for more than 8GB really.

[Deleted]

Which would i prefer? The best performing option ofc. The question is rather how expensive of a system does your budget allow?


This. 8350k might be worth considering assuming it is competitively priced and OCs to at least match 7600k (or 7700k if it turns out to be hyperthreaded as rumored, but i doubt that). For wow specifically i would not consider anything AMD has to offer due to their lower clocks and wows reliance on singlethreaded performance.

You should read about Ryzen. It's a new cpu that is also similarly strong at single threads. Some weaknesses with 1080ti usage vs intel at 1080p or lower resolutions, but otherwise it's neck and neck in game performance. A 1060 gtx with Ryzen is exactly the same as the intel equivalent in any resolution for example.

[Lathais]

You should read about Ryzen. It's a new cpu that is also similarly strong at single threads. Some weaknesses with 1080ti usage vs intel at 1080p or lower resolutions, but otherwise it's neck and neck in game performance. A 1060 gtx with Ryzen is exactly the same as the intel equivalent in any resolution for example.

I second this. Ask @moremana as well, He actually HAS both a Ryzen and intel system that he plays on. One is actually for work and one is actually for games, but he's played WoW on the work machine(Ryzen) and fully admits that without looking at the FPS counters he can not really tell the difference.

[Salty Maud]

You should read about Ryzen. It's a new cpu that is also similarly strong at single threads. Some weaknesses with 1080ti usage vs intel at 1080p or lower resolutions, but otherwise it's neck and neck in game performance. A 1060 gtx with Ryzen is exactly the same as the intel equivalent in any resolution for example.

I have. It's simply not on par when it comes to single thread performance. Sure it's not as much behind as bulldozer, but it's still slower by a decent margin (something like 20% when OCd). Ryzen has cores, but if it's gaming performance, especially wow, more cores is not what you want.

I second this. Ask @moremana as well, He actually HAS both a Ryzen and intel system that he plays on. One is actually for work and one is actually for games, but he's played WoW on the work machine(Ryzen) and fully admits that without looking at the FPS counters he can not really tell the difference.

But the difference is there and therefore i can't recommend the worse product for this specific task. If you were to reveal that you plan to start streaming too i would start considering ryzen.

I swear this conversation happens on every single pc build thread.

[Lathais]

I have. It's simply not on par when it comes to single thread performance. Sure it's not as much behind as bulldozer, but it's still slower by a decent margin (something like 20% when OCd). Ryzen has cores, but if it's gaming performance, especially wow, more cores is not what you want.



But the difference is there and therefore i can't recommend the worse product for this specific task. If you were to reveal that you plan to start streaming too i would start considering ryzen.

I swear this conversation happens on every single pc build thread.

It costs far less and you can't see the difference. I can't recommend spending more money for something that does not give me a noticeable benefit.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it does, because neither of us is wrong. We are both right, so of course, it will come up time and time again. Some people just look at it from a cost perspective and some from a performance perspective. I tend to argue that if the performance difference is not going to be perceivable, what does it matter if it is there? Yes, even for WoW only. For other games, it becomes even less of a difference because unless you have a monitor with a refresh rate higher than 60hz, your monitor is not even capable of displaying that performance difference you are getting.