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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by NoiseTank13 View Post
    Assuming optimal conditions, the most times she can Resurrect is 5 after E->Q.

    Basically a full old Resurrection over the course of 20 seconds.
    Yes, but now players need half a brain to pull it off.
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  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    Can't say I like her new ult honestly.

    I play Mercy to support. Now people are going to expect you to take out the threats they can't handle, like Widowmaker and Pharah.

    Don't think her ult should be that aggressive.
    I seriously doubt that- for one Blizzard already said that pistol damage is going to be nerfed.

    Additionally, I would think chain healing/damage boosting will be infinitely preferred over you trying to take to the skies to take out key targets. But the option is still there and Mercy will actually have a judgement call over how best to use her 20 seconds of SHOWTIME.

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    Yes, but now players need half a brain to pull it off.
    Oh well.
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  3. #43
    I'm not a fan of mercy shooting more during the ult, she should be healing and rezing and instead we are all going to have to put up with the team healer trying to be bastion.

    "I need heals!"
    "Fuck that, I'm a full battle Mercy!"
    "We are so going to lose..."
    If you push a button that finds you a 'random group' and it gives you a random group of people with random skill and random knowledge then you have no right to complain that a 'random group' button did what it was designed to do. The fault lies in your inability to make friends to play with instead of relying on a button designed to be random. It is a 'random group' button, not a 'best of the best' button.

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by NoiseTank13 View Post
    I seriously doubt that- for one Blizzard already said that pistol damage is going to be nerfed.

    Additionally, I would think chain healing/damage boosting will be infinitely preferred over you trying to take to the skies to take out key targets. But the option is still there and Mercy will actually have a judgement call over how best to use her 20 seconds of SHOWTIME.
    Even if it retains her base pistol damage in the end, it's not about just that, it's the maneuverability. So with the "nerf" to something that's still gonna be a boost, it's still most likely going to be expected, unless they gut how offensive it is.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    Even if it retains her base pistol damage in the end, it's not about just that, it's the maneuverability. So with the "nerf" to something that's still gonna be a boost, it's still most likely going to be expected, unless they gut how offensive it is.
    Honestly, I think the support portion of it will far outweigh pistol use regardless, except for extreme circumstances. The beam length is HUGE and has quite a range on the chaining, never underestimate dmg boosting 4-5 teamates or healing them all for 60hps (in a perfect world.... 300 split hps.... damn)

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    I'm not a fan of mercy shooting more during the ult, she should be healing and rezing and instead we are all going to have to put up with the team healer trying to be bastion.

    "I need heals!"
    "Fuck that, I'm a full battle Mercy!"
    "We are so going to lose..."
    As opposed an Ana trolling your team by Nano-boosting Widowmaker? Terrible players are going to make terrible decisions regardless. Her pistol damage is getting nerfed, and with the influx of Widowmakers incoming because of her buffs, Mercy is going to get shot out of the sky at an alarming rate even with Nano-boost.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    Even if it retains her base pistol damage in the end, it's not about just that, it's the maneuverability. So with the "nerf" to something that's still gonna be a boost, it's still most likely going to be expected, unless they gut how offensive it is.
    I fail to see how that's a problem. There are Hero's that can shoot her out of the sky. She's not going to be a Pharah who can 2-3 shot her supposed counters, she has to be in danger, in line of sight, and also doesn't take away the fact she'd get much more value healing/damage boosting her team.
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  7. #47
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    Makes sense and I love the new changes :-)

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by NoiseTank13 View Post
    I fail to see how that's a problem. There are Hero's that can shoot her out of the sky. She's not going to be a Pharah who can 2-3 shot her supposed counters, she has to be in danger, in line of sight, and also doesn't take away the fact she'd get much more value healing/damage boosting her team.
    Except now she regens health no matter if she's taking damage or not, so you basically HAVE to one shot her.

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    Except now she regens health no matter if she's taking damage or not, so you basically HAVE to one shot her.
    You will out damage her self-regen. And if the self-regen is too much, Blizz will nerf it.
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  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by NoiseTank13 View Post
    You will out damage her self-regen. And if the self-regen is too much, Blizz will nerf it.
    The self-regen shouldn't be nerfed, it's something that's baseline for her right now. Also no, you won't, because she moves faster while flying around, so if she's in danger, she'll just fly away from you.

  11. #51
    Wow that is probably the biggest change to a character the game has ever had. Considerably bigger than the Symmetra changes.

    I do see where they're going with it but it might be a bit extreme...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    Except now she regens health no matter if she's taking damage or not, so you basically HAVE to one shot her.
    You'd think that this would give Widow and Hanzo a viable niche, but it never has before.
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    So much fun! No way it goes live like this but even with some minor nerfs blizzard did a good job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoiseTank13 View Post
    As opposed an Ana trolling your team by Nano-boosting Widowmaker? Terrible players are going to make terrible decisions regardless. Her pistol damage is getting nerfed, and with the influx of Widowmakers incoming because of her buffs, Mercy is going to get shot out of the sky at an alarming rate even with Nano-boost.



    I fail to see how that's a problem. There are Hero's that can shoot her out of the sky. She's not going to be a Pharah who can 2-3 shot her supposed counters, she has to be in danger, in line of sight, and also doesn't take away the fact she'd get much more value healing/damage boosting her team.
    WM is getting a buff? List anywhere with all the changes?

  14. #54
    I like the changes. As a general rule of thumb they should have skill play a larger factor in gameplay. Mercy one-tricks are a complete mess on the game atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    Can't say I like her new ult honestly.

    I play Mercy to support. Now people are going to expect you to take out the threats they can't handle, like Widowmaker and Pharah.

    Don't think her ult should be that aggressive.
    I disagree. That one gif upthread isn't going to be typical. Going aggro is begging to get yourself killed; Mercy's self-healing isn't THAT great, and she gets zero defenses other than speed here.

    Now, going Valkyrie and flying above your team behind a corner while you chain-heal/DPS boost your whole team as an unkillable Norse godling, sure. THAT'S gonna happen, but that's awesome.

  16. #56
    About time her bloody mass resurrect got nerf'd.

  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Explicit Teemo Nudes View Post
    WM is getting a buff? List anywhere with all the changes?
    Her Grapple CD is reduced. I think from 12 to 8 seconds. Mine is getting a buff, revealing people that it poisons. All she needed.
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  18. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    Can't say I like her new ult honestly.

    I play Mercy to support. Now people are going to expect you to take out the threats they can't handle, like Widowmaker and Pharah.

    Don't think her ult should be that aggressive.
    I personally love it, since her Ult gives her the ability to go full hard Heal/Buff or DPS. Which is exactly what a Support should be. Someone that can fill different roles to support their team in different ways.

  19. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    I disagree. That one gif upthread isn't going to be typical. Going aggro is begging to get yourself killed; Mercy's self-healing isn't THAT great, and she gets zero defenses other than speed here.

    Now, going Valkyrie and flying above your team behind a corner while you chain-heal/DPS boost your whole team as an unkillable Norse godling, sure. THAT'S gonna happen, but that's awesome.
    It "not being typical" isn't going to change that's what people will expect.

    Just like people expect your average Genji to play on Seagull levels. People see it, and then suddenly expect that to be the norm, and will rage when it doesn't happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Dracula View Post
    I personally love it, since her Ult gives her the ability to go full hard Heal/Buff or DPS. Which is exactly what a Support should be. Someone that can fill different roles to support their team in different ways.
    Mercy was never about going DPS though, unless it was a last minute pinch.

  20. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    Mercy was never about going DPS though, unless it was a last minute pinch.
    Which is what encouraged her shitty playstyle. Since she brought nothing of value outside of her Mass rezzing that other Heroes couldn't do better. Now she can do much more to support her team. If you pop Valk and most of your team is already Healthy, then you can use some of her newfound DPS to still be relevant to the match.

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