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    How much would you rate Blizzard Quality of content of WoW back then and now?

    I would rate the content they used to give around an solid 7-8, with the meaning on how much they actually tried on fixing things and advertise the game. Showing the game is still a big piece of the market.

    I would rate the content they are giving us now and how much they actually try people joining the game a solid 5.
    Edit: To enlighten my solid 5. The game is dumped down version of it's former glory with the idea of immersion being totally gone and the reward of taking your time into the game also being gone.

    What about you?
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    Define specifically when "they used to give" was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoanaLisa View Post
    Define specifically when "they used to give" was.
    Actual proper content that felt rewarding. As example the class quests are just a bunch of easy quests chain that took weeks to unlock yet the progress itself was SOOO easy. Only reason it took a bit was due gating. This is what i call not proper content. This is an easy not time consuming thing for Blizzard to do that they made us spend weeks on.

    Edit: Look at the frontpage "The Battle.Net App was updated today to group your favorites, sort your friends by activity, additional emoji support, and more!"

    Like are they really spending their time on this? Same goes on features like dance studio, Selfie cam, Twitter etc.
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    That didn't answer the question.
    "...money's most powerful ability is to allow bad people to continue doing bad things at the expense of those who don't have it."

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    Well, Legion started as a 7. With 7.1 and Karazhan / Nighthold it grew to a 9. With 7.2 it went down to a 6 and now I would rate it 5. Quality of content became worse with every Legion patch after 7.1.
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    As long as they got multiple versions of raids and dungeons, it will never feel like the old days.

    Repeating the same content isn't actually new content, it just extends the lifespan and player range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoanaLisa View Post
    That didn't answer the question.
    It is. Blizzard is adding content most people don't care about or things that don't belong in a MMORPG.
    I wouldn't be surprised if WoW had less then 1M active players left and this is not because WoW became old. It is the direction Blizzard took WoW into the beginning of WoD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    Actual proper content that felt rewarding. As example the class quests are just a bunch of easy quests chain that took weeks to unlock yet the progress itself was SOOO easy. Only reason it took a bit was due gating. This is what i call not proper content. This is an easy not time consuming thing for Blizzard to do that they made us spend weeks on.

    Edit: Look at the frontpage "The Battle.Net App was updated today to group your favorites, sort your friends by activity, additional emoji support, and more!"

    Like are they really spending their time on this? Same goes on features like dance studio, Selfie cam, Twitter etc.
    Ah so basically a "back in my day everything was better" thread?

    Also what does Battle.net have to do with WoW other than it being the platform for it? You really think the same devs are working on those emojis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    It is. Blizzard is adding content most people don't care about or things that don't belong in a MMORPG.
    I wouldn't be surprised if WoW had less then 1M active players left and this is not because WoW became old. It is the direction Blizzard took WoW into the beginning of WoD.
    So basically as well as a "back in my day" thread it's a "wow is dead/dying" thread as well?

    Gotcha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    Ah so basically a "back in my day everything was better" thread?

    Also what does Battle.net have to do with WoW other than it being the platform for it? You really think the same devs are working on those emojis?

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    So basically as a "back in my day" thread it's a "wow is dead/dying" thread as well?

    Gotcha.
    Not really. Just saying back in the days they actually added proper in-game content for us to look forward too. When was last time you looked forward to something in WoW? Even big patches are full of dissapointment nowadays. Aka 7.2 and 7.3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    Not really. Just saying back in the days they actually added proper in-game content for us to look forward too. When was last time you looked forward to something in WoW? Even big patches are full of dissapointment nowadays. Aka 7.2 and 7.3
    I'm enjoying 7.3. Don't speak for me please.

    And again the people who work on the Battle.net app are an entirely different team.

    And please what did they add back in Vanilla?

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_1.6.0

    Major patch had 1 raid, the old crappy Darkmoon Faire and queueable BGS. SO MUCH CONTENT YO!

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_1.2.0

    A Dungeon, Winter Veil and Cloak and Helm graphics.

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_1.7.0

    A raid, 1 BG and a fishing event.

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_1.5.0

    2 BGs and the honor system. Which was supposedly intended to be in at launch.

    Seriously you all pipe on about how Vanilla had content and it barely did.

    Want me to go onto BC and Wrath? Because I happily will. Let's not forget BC had a whole patch dedicated to a shitty voice chat system.
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    Quality of content gets better and better with every expansion. Modern WoW had problem with quantity, each expansion we got less instances and zones. But it finally changed with Legion, especially with dungeons.

    I think we are in perfect spot regards to dungeons and raids. Although one more questing zone could be great.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Well, Legion started as a 7. With 7.1 and Karazhan / Nighthold it grew to a 9. With 7.2 it went down to a 6 and now I would rate it 5. Quality of content became worse with every Legion patch after 7.1.
    Good that Legion have only 3 tiers, it could drop to 3/10 with 6th raid. /sarcasm

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    WOTLK - 7/10 throughout
    Cataclysm - 7.5, Firelands pulled it up but Dragon Soul pulled it back down.
    MoP - 8.5-9/10, 5.2 best patch in the history of this game.
    WoD - 6.5/10, new char models, raiding and timewalking saved a bit
    Legion 8.5-9.5/10 throughout, 7.2 pulling the grade down a tad. The between-expansion-gap will determine the final number for this expansion. Quality and quantity has been excellent, far exceeding what we got in previous iterations overall.

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    Legion started out good... but when Blizzard have entirely relied on OTT RNG this expansion as its means of player retention, especially after the "introduction" [deliberate intention] of reputation mounts in 7.2 via Paragon caches... and then Broken Shore's abysmal "storyline" with its weekly quests, and such... "what quality?" comes to mind.

    The only quality I give merit to Blizzard is their art and dungeon/raid department... their management department, on the other hand, can go fuck themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    I'm enjoying 7.3. Don't speak for me please.

    And again the people who work on the Battle.net app are an entirely different team.

    And please what did they add back in Vanilla?

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_1.6.0

    Major patch had 1 raid, the old crappy Darkmoon Faire and queueable BGS. SO MUCH CONTENT YO!

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_1.2.0

    A Dungeon, Winter Veil and Cloak and Helm graphics.

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_1.7.0

    A raid, 1 BG and a fishing event.

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_1.5.0

    2 BGs and the honor system. Which was supposedly intended to be in at launch.

    Seriously you all pipe on about how Vanilla had content and it barely did.

    Want me to go onto BC and Wrath? Because I happily will. Let's not forget BC had a whole patch dedicated to a shitty voice chat system.
    Please do go onto BC and Wrath, could be useful for future reference.

    Or not, considering the thread might be locked if it is indeed just meant as another "WoW is dying hurr durr less than 1 million players based on muh feels!"-cirklejerk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    I agree. Class quests were so much better in Vanilla. Like the shaman totem quests. Remember when you had to kill that quillboar, and then walk up that mountain and kill that fire elemental? And go walk to places in the middle of nowhere so you could fill that water pouch, so that you could walk to someplace even more in the middle of nowhere and kill a water elemental?

    And that epic walk to Raveholdt so you could disarm one trap and turn a quest in?

    Man they sure don't make content like they used to.
    Quoted for truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    Actual proper content that felt rewarding. As example the class quests are just a bunch of easy quests chain that took weeks to unlock yet the progress itself was SOOO easy. Only reason it took a bit was due gating. This is what i call not proper content. This is an easy not time consuming thing for Blizzard to do that they made us spend weeks on.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    Not really. Just saying back in the days they actually added proper in-game content for us to look forward too. When was last time you looked forward to something in WoW? Even big patches are full of dissapointment nowadays. Aka 7.2 and 7.3
    I agree. Class quests were so much better in Vanilla. Like the shaman totem quests. Remember when you had to kill that quillboar, and then walk up that mountain and kill that fire elemental? And go walk to places in the middle of nowhere so you could fill that water pouch, so that you could walk to someplace even more in the middle of nowhere and kill a water elemental?

    And that epic walk to Raveholdt so you could disarm one trap and turn a quest in?

    Man they sure don't make content like they used to.

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    I feel this is way too similar a thread about this subject which never seems to end that also comes up on the official forums almost everyday...

    So refreshing -.-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorcanna View Post
    Please do go onto BC and Wrath, could be useful for future reference.
    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_2.3.0

    Raid, Guild Banks and mostly QoL changes.

    In fairness a good patch.

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_2.1.0

    Meaty patch. Raid, multiple reps, New Arena and Druid Flight Form.

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_2.2.0

    Literally voice chat. OH MAN I GOTTA GET ON THAT VOICE CHAT. SUCH THRILLING CONTENT EVERYONE!

    Now Wrath.

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_3.1.0

    Ulduar (amazing raid) and the Argent Tournament dailies with some usual QoL/class changes.

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_3.2.0

    TotC, Heroic Mode and Isle of Conquest with the usual QoL/class changes.

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_3.3.0

    ICC (which was gated if I recall), Dungeon Finder and updates to quest tracking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorcanna View Post
    WOTLK - 7/10 throughout
    Cataclysm - 7.5, Firelands pulled it up but Dragon Soul pulled it back down.
    MoP - 8.5-9/10, 5.2 best patch in the history of this game.
    WoD - 6.5/10, new char models, raiding and timewalking saved a bit
    Legion 8.5-9.5/10 throughout, 7.2 pulling the grade down a tad. The between-expansion-gap will determine the final number for this expansion. Quality and quantity has been excellent, far exceeding what we got in previous iterations overall.
    An actual opinion of someone else I can agree with.

    I also believe it's much of the truth, as much as Vanilla fanbois like to say Vanilla had content, it didn't. Legion really broke the ice and while 7.2 was EHHH, the rest was amazing, only numbers-wise, by how much content it went in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    I agree. Class quests were so much better in Vanilla. Like the shaman totem quests. Remember when you had to kill that quillboar, and then walk up that mountain and kill that fire elemental? And go walk to places in the middle of nowhere so you could fill that water pouch, so that you could walk to someplace even more in the middle of nowhere and kill a water elemental?

    And that epic walk to Raveholdt so you could disarm one trap and turn a quest in?

    Man they sure don't make content like they used to.
    Except they do it and this is an objective, factual truth you can't deny.

    The artifact acquirement is in its very own a new scenario with mostly new assets and certainly new voices / line.

    The order hall campaign is somewhat close, but provides insight to the class.

    The mage tower challenges are role-based.

    The Legionfall champion quest provides so much class depth and DKs were thought to be the most evil of all classes, spawning huge discussions.

    The class halls themselves are jewel of class representation. Oh, you like SW's center square?

    Now, I believe there's no point in arguing which one was better, because I don't think Vanilla's "go, kill, loot" was that more immersive over actual story, cinematics and what-not, actually, it wasn't, not even close.

    But hey, I see a lot of nostalgia trips and I enjoy poking them with a stick.

    "BUT MUH VANILLA"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_2.3.0

    Raid, Guild Banks and mostly QoL changes.

    In fairness a good patch.

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_2.1.0

    Meaty patch. Raid, multiple reps, New Arena and Druid Flight Form.

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_2.2.0

    Literally voice chat. OH MAN I GOTTA GET ON THAT VOICE CHAT. SUCH THRILLING CONTENT EVERYONE!

    Now Wrath.

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_3.1.0

    Ulduar (amazing raid) and the Argent Tournament dailies with some usual QoL/class changes.

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_3.2.0

    TotC, Heroic Mode and Isle of Conquest with the usual QoL/class changes.

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_3.3.0

    ICC (which was gated if I recall), Dungeon Finder and updates to quest tracking.
    ... Whaaat... Well, I suppose this explains how WOTLK was the expansion when the term "World of Queuecraft" sprung up. People were sitting in Dalaran spamming "LFG/LFM" before 3.3, and once the Dungeon Finder had been added, people were still sitting in Dalaran spamming the queues.

    I was considered crazy for spending all my time between Argent Tournament and farming herbs in Sholazar, Storm Peaks and Wintergrasp (for 100k Crimson Deathcharger)...
    WOTLK was solid for the standards of then though, for sure. Argent Tournament might have been hated by many, but I adored it. I believe MoP was when a higher standard came to be in terms of adding content not just for raiders and instanced PVPers, but then WoD happened... Legion made a return to MoP's delivery quantity, and then surpassed it with better pacing of patches.

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