How much would you rate Blizzard Quality of content of HS back then and now?

[Gimlix]

Back when Hearthstone launched and the first few expansions you could see a solid nice progress of Hearthstone. Not too much RNG and not too much OP cards. I would rate it back then a solid 9.

Nowadays, the game is fully RNG and there is so many bullshít cards that are way too overpowered if you can't answer it. The feeling of knowing a deck is completely gone due the RNG. I am giving Hearthstone a solid 4 right now.

What about you?

[Teri]

Card games, especially Wild mode style always will become like nearly impossible to balance due to the sheer number of cards after a lifespan quite as long as Hearthstone's.

Unless you of course have invested a lot of time/money in it already. (clearly the goal of free to play games :P)

It doesn't really promote free play or new players that well, even on regular mode which removes the older cards.

[Nikkaszal]

Back when Hearthstone launched and the first few expansions you could see a solid nice progress of Hearthstone. Not too much RNG and not too much OP cards. I would rate it back then a solid 9.

Nowadays, the game is fully RNG and there is so many bullshít cards that are way too overpowered if you can't answer it. The feeling of knowing a deck is completely gone due the RNG. I am giving Hearthstone a solid 4 right now.

What about you?

You have literally just posted another thread where you said you haven't played or kept up on info AT ALL for several years

And you're rating the current game?

[Twoddle]

Back when Hearthstone launched and the first few expansions you could see a solid nice progress of Hearthstone. Not too much RNG and not too much OP cards. I would rate it back then a solid 9.

Nowadays, the game is fully RNG and there is so many bullshít cards that are way too overpowered if you can't answer it. The feeling of knowing a deck is completely gone due the RNG. I am giving Hearthstone a solid 4 right now.

What about you?

If you wanna relive the early days of Hearthstone just create a new account and start playing at rank 25.

Truth is the game gets stale and people demand more content, the feel-good times when the game was fresh are long forgotten.

[Kralljin]

My main issue with Hearthstone are two things:

-Not enough balance patches to shake up the Meta, after two months the Meta has been figured out to the point that you can be rather certain no new uberdeck will arise.

-Random Card generation, playing against Freeze Mage up until LoE meant if you had a certain amount of healing in your hand to counter their burn, you won, now it has become a clown fiesta of card generation, the mage can have more than two Blizzards, multiple Frost Nova's and obviously more than two Ice blocks, not to mention additional super efficient burn spells such as Fireball.

Honestly i miss the idea that people really try to get value out of cards, the fact that some decks can produce so much fuel out of nowhere is just awful.

[Blueobelisk]

You have literally just posted another thread where you said you haven't played or kept up on info AT ALL for several years

And you're rating the current game?

Lololol.

>"Came back after a long break... No clue at all anymore"
>"Nowadays, the game is fully RNG and there is so many bullshít cards"

Clearly you can go from rank 25 to legend in 26 hours. Stop trying to keep people from realizing the truth about this game, Nikk. Take the advice of the real pros.

[Deleted]

The main difference from now compared to the very start is that decks at the start were much slower/less impactful first turns.

Now decks are much more aggressive, and your first draws matter much much more. The RNG effect of some cards printed is game-winning, while the ability to counterplay is now mostly: kill them before they do thing. Blizzard is also printing far too many cards with the purpose of being fillers- they know they won't be used, but they get printed so the expansion has 1XX new cards.

To give an example of RNG even though it doesn't seem like much. You play rogue vs rogue. You draw Patches turn 1, your oponent draws Swashburgler. Now, not only does his Swashburglar give him an RNG card you have no idea what is and no control against, but it also draws Patches, which thins his deck. There are games decided by this RNG alone.

[Deleted]

The game is a giant shitshow and it always will be unless they're willing to do drastic game changes within 2 months. Arena is just a mess at the moment

[Eleccybubb]

This is a literally a clone of the OP's thread in WoW just with the word "HS" replacing "WoW".

Funny because I swear this OP not a few years ago used to praise Blizzard like they were the God of game development or something.

[Pantalaimon]

The game is a giant shitshow and it always will be unless they're willing to do drastic game changes within 2 months. Arena is just a mess at the moment

Yet the game still brings in tons of money & doesn't look like it is going to be shutdown anytime soon.

#theskyisfalling

[Deleted]

Yet the game still brings in tons of money & doesn't look like it is going to be shutdown anytime soon.

#theskyisfalling

Which makes it even more pathetic that people are willingly enduring several months of agony in order to have a healthy meta

[caractacus]

Which makes it even more pathetic that people are willingly enduring several months of agony in order to have a healthy meta

That's a tad hyperbolic

[Deleted]

That's a tad hyperbolic

How? People are leaving faster and faster everytime new content is released. No one is gonna stick for 2 months, waiting for something to happen except the diehard fans.

[Nikkaszal]

How? People are leaving faster and faster everytime new content is released. No one is gonna stick for 2 months, waiting for something to happen except the diehard fans.

What are you backing this up with?

[Deleted]

What are you backing this up with?

Read any major social site? Why do you think Kalasethbonemare is a meme. People play when the expansion launches and then leave in droves when they realize the meta is circled around 2 decks and that Blizzard wants you to spend more money by releasing card expansions instead.

[Nikkaszal]

Read any major social site? Why do you think Kalasethbonemare is a meme. People play when the expansion launches and then leave in droves when they realize the meta is circled around 2 decks and that Blizzard wants you to spend more money by releasing card expansions instead.

So, anecdotes.

Gotcha.

[FobManX]

I actually don't think RNG is the issue at the moment so much as class balance being out of whack. There is still too big a gap between the powerful classes and the weaker ones.

[caractacus]

I really don't see a problem with classes being unbalanced atm especially after the recent nerf. According to Tempo Storm Priest, Rogue, Druid, Hunter and Shaman area all Tier 1 right now. Warrior, Paladin(which both took a bit of a bump after the nerf) and Mage are Tier 2. With Warlock still bringing up the rear at tier 3 but you can't tell me Warlock is not competitive right now, it's no where near as bad as it was in Un'goro.

[xenogear3]

Yet the game still brings in tons of money & doesn't look like it is going to be shutdown anytime soon.

#theskyisfalling

It is tons of money to you, but not for Blizzard.

Blizzard is expecting that this game lasts forever. At least replace WoW/Starcraft/Diablo
The way it is going, it is hard to do.

Discovery a card should still follow the "No more than 2 card rule".

Shouldn't allow 3 ice block, 3 shadow step (prince Keleseth), discovery a discovery card with 0 mana, etc

[Pantalaimon]

It is tons of money to you, but not for Blizzard.

Blizzard is expecting that this game lasts forever. At least replace WoW/Starcraft/Diablo
The way it is going, it is hard to do.

Discovery a card should still follow the "No more than 2 card rule".

Shouldn't allow 3 ice block, 3 shadow step (prince Keleseth), discovery a discovery card with 0 mana, etc

I disagree. Not being able to discover more than the second copy of something means that many decks would simply discover a card that is completely irrelevant to their deck's win condition. For example, a freeze or quest mage discovering a secret that is not Ice Block or Ice Barrier is mostly meaningless for bringing them closer to winning, they may as well have not discovered a secret. Similar reasoning can be applied to a control deck having to select from a more aggro oriented card because they already have 2 copies of whatever the types of control cards that could have been discovered already being in their deck.