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    Horde Garrosh was secretly a hero, or is it just a subverted character trope?

    Title says it all.


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    The Unstoppable Force Arrashi's Avatar
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    Nope, the only secret hero of this story is mudmug.

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    What do you mean, 'secretly'?

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    He was a pure hero. It is a practise some agendas use. Take role models and call them 'villains'. In the end you end up with label and see character's personality through it.
    Last edited by mmoca07ba3dd81; 2017-09-29 at 04:15 PM.

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    He caused WoD. He is the worst villain to ever exist.

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    If by hero you mean a ruthless dictator/warmonger whose few honorable deeds is outshone by his unsatiable desire to rule and fuck up everything because daddy issues then yes he is a hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Nope, the only secret hero of this story is mudmug.
    Nozdormu should send Mudmug to AU Draenor so Grom and Yrel can both beat the crap out of him in their own way.
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    Hero for whom?

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    Nope, the only secretly a hero in WoW is Illidan, and the "Secret" part has been thrown out the window since Legion expansion.

    There is another one who could potentially fill this role, but only time will tell..."Staring at Lich King"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radaney View Post
    Hero for whom?
    For orcs of course! Who cares about anyone else?

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    Stood in the Fire Azarak's Avatar
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    You gave away your troll calling vol'jin a super evil person with the desire to rule everything. That's ridiculously far off and he didn't even want to rule his own people let alone everyone.

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    Garrosh did nothing wrong. His own faction betrayed him.

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    What is secret about it, he was a Hero till 1 patch before SoO where blizzard gave in to Alliance fan-boys and fucked him over.

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    since when was voljin "super evil who wanted to rule everything"
    also if your goin to strech this trope that much then here we go
    you cant just fill in the spots and say "hes confirmed hero" so could people like hitler fit this
    Last edited by FelPlague; 2017-09-29 at 02:09 AM.
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    lolno /endthread

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    Ah yes, the whole "Hitl...uh, Garrosh did nothing wrong" club.

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    Vol'jin isn't evil or trying to take everything, infact he barely wanted to lead his own people let alone the whole Horde... I don't really care if its suppose to be a joke or not taken seriously but at least add Jaina or something for the laughs instead.

    "Only Beasts are above deceit" - Rexxar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiraser View Post
    Title says it all.

    Quote Originally Posted by WowIsDead64 View Post
    Remove combat, Mobs, PvP, and Difficult Content

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    I giggled at "bearded mentor".

    I mean....I guess technically you're not wrong, but...

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    In no way was Garrosh Hellscream a hero. I partly blame blizz for what little character development he had; then to take a left at batstuff crazy town and never come back. He is the one character that ruined so much of the lore for me and the primary reason I believe is what started the Horde's decline into a floormat. I don't even have to go into what he did to Alliance that will just start a whole other topic on it's own.

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