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  1. #341
    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    I'm not a fan of companies using real world politics to virtue signal to sell games. So I'm walking away like an adult woukd do, not whining about it.
    Like I said, it clearly pissed you off. if it didn't piss you off, you wouldn't have walked away like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    I'm not a fan of companies using real world politics to virtue signal to sell games. So I'm walking away like an adult woukd do, not whining about it.
    First off have you never played a Wolfenstein game before?

    Second by posting in this thread you are not walking away like a adult....
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  3. #343
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Yeah. I mean, we've been doing this for decades much to the delight of pretty much everyone that isn't a Nazi, but suddenly it's become this politically motivated move by Bethesda in response to modern politics.

    Ignoring that this game began development before the 2016 election cycle or that the reboot came out years ago and was a huge success.

    It's all fuckin strange, man.



    If it doesn't mean anything, why are so many people getting so triggered by it?

    I mean, it's fun, Nazi's are scum and have been guilt-free targets in gaming and popular culture since WW2.

    It sure worked with the first reboot of Wolfenstein a few years back, that game reviewed great and sold super well. Why are people suddenly so triggered by the sequel that's basically "more of the same, but with more shooting!"?
    I just asked if killing a video game Nazi meant anything. Someone's mad that other people aren't buying 5 copies to prove how anti-Nazi they are.
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  4. #344
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkeon View Post
    We'll just pretend we are talking about the game itself and not about the tweet that was just made, as an advertisement\marketing move.
    Oh Edge, you are so fuckin dishonest, man.
    They used a riff on the MAGA slogan to make it against Nazi's...and? I fail to see the controversy with that, if I was a Trump supporter I'd be pretty alright with it. Using "your" slogan to express anti-Nazi sentiments? Seems pretty good to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dextroden View Post
    I just asked if killing a video game Nazi meant anything. Someone's mad that other people aren't buying 5 copies to prove how anti-Nazi they are.
    Why would someone buy 5 copies? I mean, other than for friends or something. That's silly.

    I'll probably pick it up eventually when it's on sale, does this mean that you think I should have a low opinion of myself or that I should think I'm a Nazi sympathizer?

    Just want to know how I should act according to the straman of me that you've created.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    They used a riff on the MAGA slogan to make it against Nazi's...and? I fail to see the controversy with that, if I was a Trump supporter I'd be pretty alright with it. Using "your" slogan to express anti-Nazi sentiments? Seems pretty good to me.
    "And", that's the cause of the tweet lash out. While I'm sure all 5 people that are angry Nazis are being killed in the game exist, however most of those replies clearly mention how of a letdown it is to see them using current political events\slogans\whateveryouhave as a marketing move.

    Making everything political got boring - Fast. Bad person. Stop it.

  6. #346
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    They used a riff on the MAGA slogan to make it against Nazi's...and? I fail to see the controversy with that, if I was a Trump supporter I'd be pretty alright with it. Using "your" slogan to express anti-Nazi sentiments? Seems pretty good to me.



    Why would someone buy 5 copies? I mean, other than for friends or something. That's silly.

    I'll probably pick it up eventually when it's on sale, does this mean that you think I should have a low opinion of myself or that I should think I'm a Nazi sympathizer?

    Just want to know how I should act according to the straman of me that you've created.
    Well, someone certainly got triggered when their Nazi stance was questioned.

    All i asked was if killing a video game Nazi meant anything and you got upset and called me triggered.
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    The best marketing for this game has been the alt right and nazi sympathizers throwing a fit over it.

    I might have to go get it at the mall just make the purchase official.

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  9. #349
    Quote Originally Posted by Dextroden View Post
    Well, someone certainly got triggered when their Nazi stance was questioned.
    I did? Man, can you tell me what I'm doing all the time? Because you seem to know a lot more about what I'm feeling at any given moment than even I do.

    Are you like, in my phone or something, man? Get outta my phone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dextroden View Post
    All i asked was if killing a video game Nazi meant anything and you got upset and called me triggered.
    Note: My references to being triggered were general. If you thought it was directed at you that's because you chose to read it that way. It was not written that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sliske View Post
    You realise a lot of Nazis merely want people deported right? Yes, I understand thats a human rights violation too, but to them, they see it as good both ways , because they believe races should be separate.

    Not every Nazi wants to hunt down jews. I know you'll have a hard time believing that, but seriously. These people are not skinheads with guns and shit - they're fat virgins sitting on /pol/ trying to imagine a world were Hitler didn't start killing people, but instead just kept on building and strengthining Germany and its people. They see that in their head and wonder why their country couldn't do that too?

    Obviously this is the same problem as communism. "Ahhh, that wasn't TRUE communism - we'll get it better this time!"

    We shouldn't demonise people that aren't demonising others. And a lot of Nazis aren't, believe it or not - they're just ignorant as fuck and think Utopias can happen if you believe really hard.
    "Not all nazis", eh? All Nationalsocialists and those who believed in Hitler's and by that extent: Rosenberg's ideology, did want to see Jews and "unworthy life" dead. Originally there was a simple plan to deport them, but what does that mean: "just deport them"? Some of my paternal relatives belonged to that kind who truly believed in Hitler's version of ethnic cleansing being a force of good...for Germany. They were active members of the party. The belief was that there is no higher kind of human than being German. Jews were seen as a force of evil, it was honestly believed that they were by those people who fully bought into that ideology. There's no whitewashing needed here. The communists had their die-hard beliefs, so did the Nazis, but both are not equal nor do they cancel eachother out. Because communism had the mission of transforming humans into the New Man, nationalsocialism believed that the New Man already existed and it was called German.

    The deportations were seen as a means to an end, Jews however believed that they have lived through harsher times and that Germans would never allow their own countrymen/-women being mishandled like that - haven't they fought and died alongside in WWI? For Hitler the Jews didn't move out fast enough and in addition they took Poland, a country with even more Jews. So they devised the Final Solution which was based on Rosenberg's ideology. Saying "not all nazis" wanted it is wrong, all Nazis wanted it, those who didn't weren't actual Nazis in the first place. In the end ideology has a transformative and desensitizing character especially when acting as a group this why cleansing operations on the Eastern front was usually described by surviving soldiers as something they felt really bad at first but not as much anymore the more people participated. Usually normal soldiers eventually got sick of it hence why Himmler's SS was especially ideologically trained for the kind of work that involved doing the "cold and dirty work" and Himmler insisted that all of his soldiers remained "decent people" even during the worst campaigns. Now, "decent" didn't mean being a good guy or having acted ethically, it meant that in their morale world that they didn't flinch, felt shame or remorse.
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  11. #351
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I did? Man, can you tell me what I'm doing all the time? Because you seem to know a lot more about what I'm feeling at any given moment than even I do.

    Are you like, in my phone or something, man? Get outta my phone.



    Note: My references to being triggered were general. If you thought it was directed at you that's because you chose to read it that way. It was not written that way.
    It was probably because you quoted me asking that question and then went on a delusional rant about triggered people. I mean, I guess this is you admitting you talk to yourself if you quote me then go on a rant.

    So, again, does it mean anything to kill a video game Nazi?
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    Clever usage of the slogan. Getting rid of nazis in the country really would make it greater. Maybe the right can add them to the list of people they want to deport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Like I said, it clearly pissed you off. if it didn't piss you off, you wouldn't have walked away like that.
    I don't get pissed off. If you don't have anything to say beyond telling me how i feel like a mind reader, we're done.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    First off have you never played a Wolfenstein game before?

    Second by posting in this thread you are not walking away like a adult....
    I beat a new order. Second, allbi did wad share my opinion.

  14. #354
    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    I don't get pissed off. If you don't have anything to say beyond telling me how i feel like a mind reader, we're done.

    I beat a new order. Second, allbi did wad share my opinion.
    Alrighty, have a wonderful evening. I hope you find a game that doesn't anger you with its advertising.

  15. #355
    Quote Originally Posted by Dextroden View Post
    It was probably because you quoted me asking that question and then went on a delusional rant about triggered people. I mean, I guess this is you admitting you talk to yourself if you quote me then go on a rant.
    Seriously man, can you get outta my head? You continue to know I'm doing things that even I don't know I'm doing.

    Also, delusional rant? Do you have issues understanding quoting someone and giving a more general response? It's not terribly confusing, or at least it shouldn't be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dextroden View Post
    So, again, does it mean anything to kill a video game Nazi?
    Nope, but it's a load of fun for a lot of us. Now let's see if you're going to take this anywhere : )

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    Mmm conservstive tears, so fucking delicious, it pairs well with their hypocrisy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sliske View Post
    You realise a lot of Nazis merely want people deported right? Yes, I understand thats a human rights violation too, but to them, they see it as good both ways , because they believe races should be separate.

    Not every Nazi wants to hunt down jews. I know you'll have a hard time believing that, but seriously. These people are not skinheads with guns and shit - they're fat virgins sitting on /pol/ trying to imagine a world were Hitler didn't start killing people, but instead just kept on building and strengthining Germany and its people. They see that in their head and wonder why their country couldn't do that too?

    Obviously this is the same problem as communism. "Ahhh, that wasn't TRUE communism - we'll get it better this time!"

    We shouldn't demonise people that aren't demonising others. And a lot of Nazis aren't, believe it or not - they're just ignorant as fuck and think Utopias can happen if you believe really hard.
    Wow. Just wow.

    Being stupid and/or ignorant is not an excuse to anything. If you call yourself a Nazi, you say you support the hateful things it stands for. Simple as that. Not knowing, wanting to know, denying, thinking it's something else, cherry-picking the parts you like, none of that is an excuse.

    Nazism = hate.

    This is not up for debate. That's literally what it stands for.

    The hell we shouldn't demonize people who call themselves nazi's. They already did so themselves.

    The fact that you're defending those people says enough to me about your moral standards.

    I've lost family in WWII, just like most Europeans. Only difference is that I'm probably old enough that I might've otherwise met those relatives who got killed if it hadn't happened unlike (I'm guessing) other posters on this board. My family had the misfortune of living right on the German border.

    Stop your disrespectful hate speech now.

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  19. #359
    Let's be honest, the devs could pick any other phrase to promote their new game, and nobody would react this way. They decided to politicise their game, so now they get to suffer the blowback for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astalnar View Post
    Let's be honest, the devs could pick any other phrase to promote their new game, and nobody would react this way. They decided to politicise their game, so now they get to suffer the blowback for it.
    I would have never heard of the game otherwise, so good marketing imo.

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