My problem isn't with M+ but just with titanforging. They did a really good job solving the AP grinding so I'm very happy with that. The only reason to grind M+ now is for gear, and many mythic raiders do so just to get an edge or to make some more progress. I wish Mythic raids would just drop gear at or very near the forged cap instead of being 25 levels lower like it is right now. I want M+ to be a fun alternative to raiding, not this grind for gear. I want to be able to do a couple with my friends without all of us groaning at the thought of doing more than one a week now.