[EU] Brexit negotiations at a standstill

[Mayhem]

because we have a lame duck remoaner PM (mrs may) with her remoaner chancellor (hammond).

they want to sabotage the brexit process to line their pockets, because brexit will be putting wealth into the pockets of the poorest families through more of our gdp coming from manufacturing and agriculture.

Who are you going to sell that to?

[Floopa]

Id be surprised if had much of a clue about how national economies work at all, tbh. Otherwise he wouldn't be here promoting a no deal scenario as a good thing for Britain.

explain why the remoaner government are refusing to publish no-deal impact scenarios then

[Kiri]

explain why the remoaner government are refusing to publish no-deal impact scenarios then

Because they, too, follow the 'Brexit's gonna be great' narrative. Just because you call them remoaners and just because they might prefer not to have to go through with Brexit does not mean they would actively sabotage the process. It would only make their job harder.

[Dizzeeyooo]

if you listen to nigel farage on LBC

shooting myself in the head would probably be more useful

explain why the remoaner government are refusing to publish no-deal impact scenarios then

because for a variety of stupid reasons, the current government is committed to delivering Brexit

when organisations outside the Government publish detailed factual studies that demonstrate how Brexit is the economic equivalent of the UK shooting itself in the face, people like you can brush that information off as false remoaner EU sponsored fake news lies, much like Trump supporters do with anything vaguely negative about Trump

but when the Government publishes detailed studies showing exactly the same thing as all the other studies, it probably becomes slightly more difficult for individual people within that Government to ignore, regardless of how individually biased/stupid they are

exactly the same reason why May suppressed reports into the economic impact of immigration in the UK - when you are pushing the narrative that all immigrants are lazy benefits claiming criminal rapists, your own department publishing facts that show the complete opposite is not a welcome thing

brexit will be putting wealth into the pockets of the poorest families through more of our gdp coming from manufacturing and agriculture.

because the agricultural revolution and industrial revolution were both hugely advantageous periods for the poorest families in the UK, at the expense of the land owners and factory owners who suffered terribly, right?

[Floopa]

the organisations that are claiming brexit are going to be a disaster are funded by the EU... i wonder why?

[Dizzeeyooo]

the organisations that are claiming brexit are going to be a disaster are funded by the EU... i wonder why?

you mean the OECD? the USA funds 21% of that organisation, are they part of the EU? Japan funds 9% of that organisation, are they part of the EU? Australia and NZ fund 4% of that organisation, are they part of the EU?

[Floopa]

you mean the OECD? the USA funds 21% of that organisation, are they part of the EU?

no but they have a stake to make the UK look weak? thats why trump is punishing UK jobs (bombardier). they are scared just like the EU is.

the EU even gives 60 mil in funding to the OECD.

[Vankrys]

the organisations that are claiming brexit are going to be a disaster are funded by the EU... i wonder why?

you are speaking in rhetoric, but you don't give facts and reliable analysis to back up your claim. Seriously, try to take a step back, sit down and really think about the whole thing, it's far more complex that just saying ""take our country back".

building and managing a country need more than rhetoric and good sentiment. The reality of the economic world need to set in.

[Floopa]

you are speaking in rhetoric, but you don't give facts and reliable analysis to back up your claim. Seriously, try to take a step back, sit down and really think about the whole thing, it's far more complex that just saying ""take our country back".

building and managing a country need more than rhetoric and good sentiment. The reality of the economic world need to set in.

brexit is obviously a big deal, but it's great. and we're going to be great. the only thing stopping us being great and successful are remoaner politicians and obstructionist media who paint the entire thing as doomsday because they'll be losing significant sums of money because that wealth will be transferred to the poorest who VOTED for brexit.

our politicians have a duty and obligation to carry out the will of the people.

[Dizzeeyooo]

no but they have a stake to make the UK look weak? thats why trump is punishing UK jobs (bombardier). they are scared just like the EU is

yep the EU and the USA are clearly terrified of what will happen if the UK economic lion is allowed to unchain itself from Europe and roam freely around the world selling pigs ears to China

the EU even gives 60 mil in funding to the OECD.

the EU gives zero funding to the OECD, individual countries do - try listening to Nigel pathological liar Farage less and reading more

[Floopa]

If no deal is “the best case scenario for brexit Britain” why doesn’t our brextremist government publish their no deal paper and leave the eu without further negotiation?

because our PM and chancellor are closer remoaners

[ranzino]

i have a question for trading and economic specialist.

We are all talking about UK-EU trade agreement of goods and services. What about the rest of the world?

I mean, up to now, when uk base company buy and sell goods to the rest of the world, outside the EU, they do so on the cover of trade agreement between the EU and the rest of the world.

So once the UK leaves the EU, it can no longer use those trade agrement and must forge new trade agreement with the rest of the world. We hear all about UK-EU but is the government also working for the continuity of trading with the non EU country.

UK is not allowed to talk to anybody before Brexit is finished AFAIK.
but even if UK would be entitled to start talks about new treaties yesterday: such stuff needs years to negotiate, a new deal is not a simple version of "former EU deal with country ABC minus xyz = new deal UK and ABC"

[Floopa]

So the pm who is planning for a no deal is a remoaner? I thought that’s what you brextremist wanted, walk off a cliff-edge and watch our country burn.

she won’t follow through with no deal because of the arch remoaners on both sides of the house. it’s a shame because no deal would make Britain great again

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she won’t follow through with no deal because of the arch remoaners on both sides of the house. it’s a shame because no deal would make Britain great again

Even Vote Leave HQ are saying no deal is a disaster. Are they remoaners?

[Floopa]

Even Vote Leave HQ are saying no deal is a disaster. Are they remoaners?

they want a Norway style eu exit. the British public knowingly voted to leave the single market and customs union when we overwhelmingly voted to leave the EU, and so yes the vote leave campaign have turned into remoaners

[Deleted]

they want a Norway style eu exit. the British public knowingly voted to leave the single market and customs union when we overwhelmingly voted to leave the EU, and so yes the vote leave campaign have turned into remoaners

vote leave are remoaners you heard it here first.

[Mayhem]

UK is not allowed to talk to anybody before Brexit is finished AFAIK.
but even if UK would be entitled to start talks about new treaties yesterday: such stuff needs years to negotiate, a new deal is not a simple version of "former EU deal with country ABC minus xyz = new deal UK and ABC"

Other countries are also waiting for the EU deal because it's a stupid idea to negotiate trade without knowing what you're going to trade.

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vote leave are remoaners you heard it here first.

Vote leave apparently didn't not what leave meant, despite all the british that voted leave, they totally knew.

[Nigel Tufnel]

proof of this?

if you listen to nigel farage on LBC, he says that fishing is going to be one of our greatest industries post brexit and that's good, we're an island so making use of all of the ocean we have access to makes a lot more sense than capital being generated from remoaner london.

The irony here, is that he's probably right.

Subtract: medical research, financial services, aerospace technology, education etc. all of which will be completely fucked on various levels by Brexit we probably *will* be left with fishing. And cabbage-growing. So, that's a relief.

[Noradin]

im better than the remoaners that are negotiating brexit sabotage atm for sure.

Of course you are "better", you will just move to France afterwards and have them deal with the fallout, won't you?

[Deleted]

The lack of regulations (BECAUSE THEY ARE EU REGULATIONS) in the UK after the "No Deal" will be fun as hell to watch.


Note: Replace "fun as hell" with "painful as fuck".