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  1. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewor View Post
    Put your money where your mouth is and toxx clause it. if you're certain in your smugness then you have nothing to worry about.
    Stop being so retarded. I'm just as sure as the guy telling it's never going to happen. Of course no one knows - until they reveal all the features at Blizcon.
    But looking at the shitty RNG features and lootbox bonanza they've introduced in their other titles, I wouldn't put it past them. They're greedy as fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narveid View Post
    If people had to get them through lootboxes, then say.. Pay for a race change to be able to play as one, Blizzard would make themselves extremely unpopular. Doubt they'd do that, but we'll see.
    I'm really hoping they're not that greedy, but looking at the current trends and what they've introduced for other games, I'm fearing for the worst.
    Hoping there's still some sanity at the wheel somewhere at ATVI (lolled as I wrote that).

  2. #162
    it be fun to see only couple sub races, not for all (lazzy blizzard)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radaney View Post
    Because they're literally borderline extinct. They are not there Lorewise, that's the thing.

    All of the rest are, you've got it...

    Blood Elves.
    While I don't like your arrogant tone and am personally a fan of High Elves, I agree that this is why we don't have High Elves. They simply don't exist anymore. There are very few left. We have Blood Elves now. Yes, visually they're very similar but their eye color isn't the only thing that separates them. Blood Elves are cocky, vain and power hungry. High Elves were noble, loyal and prestiguous. They represent what the Alliance is about. I would have preferred that Alliance got High Elves and that Horde didn't get Blood Elves but that's the route they took with the lore and it's not going to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKnubbles View Post
    While I don't like your arrogant tone and am personally a fan of High Elves, I agree that this is why we don't have High Elves. They simply don't exist anymore. There are very few left. We have Blood Elves now. Yes, visually they're very similar but their eye color isn't the only thing that separates them. Blood Elves are cocky, vain and power hungry. High Elves were noble, loyal and prestiguous. They represent what the Alliance is about. I would have preferred that Alliance got High Elves and that Horde didn't get Blood Elves but that's the route they took with the lore and it's not going to change.
    high elves are big assholes. their blind loyalty to the alliance will cost them great in the end.

  5. #165
    I feel like a lot of the ideas/expectations that people are throwing around for the chrraces entries (particularly nightborne and void elves) are much closer to concepts for entire new races. I don't think you can call something a subrace just because it shares a skeleton with an existing player model.

    If WoW ever does implement subraces, I'd expect it to be more along the line of an additional level of character customization - something that gives your avatar more of a unique identity, but doesn't necessarily change its appearance, and only rarely entails a new model. Something like choosing the kingdom of origin for humans, or a clan for orcs. This 'origin' might give/restrict access to certain skin tones, certain classes, maybe even extra features like scars or tattoos. But it would mainly serve as additional flavor to existing races, and not conjuring up an entirely new look, feel, and culture.

    Just spinning off possibilities in my head, I imagine a race with subraces would keep its current starting experience, but might have a different opening voice over for each race, and a couple of unique npcs in the starter zone to enforce identity, explain why the character is there, and give the first couple of quests - just the 1-2 level experience. So, for example, if you started as a Revantusk Troll, you'd get the same pan-over, but the narration might say something like~

    Once the vanguard of the Old Horde, the Forest Trolls of Lordaeron were scattered by the elves and the Wildhammer Dwarves. Now, the Revantusk Tribe has found solace once more beneath the eaves of the Horde, with its foundation of courage and its hope for the disparate peoples of Azeroth. Once enemies, the Revantusk and Darkspear Tribes now join together on the Echo Isles to train their most promising fighters to serve the Horde with honor.

    Have a couple Forest Troll NPCs to give you your first couple of quests, mention that you can get training here you'd never find in Revantusk Village, before being funneled into the same starting quests as any other troll at around mid-level 2.

    I was thinking of what would realistically fit (both lorewise and gameplay-wise) to give players the breadth of 'subraces' they'd like their toons to represent, within the existing Horde and Alliance. Here's what I came up with~

    Human-Azeroth, Stromgarde, Kul Tiras (sailor tattoos?), Lordaeron (slimmer body type?)
    Dwarf-Bronzebeard, Wildhammer, Dark Iron
    Nelf-Highborne (lighter skin tones), Kaldorei (current)
    Eredar-Draenei (current), Krokul, Lightforged

    Orc-Blackrock, Dragonmaw, Mag'har, Frostwolf, Warsong, Bleeding Hollow, Shattered Hand, Burning Blade
    Tauren-Icemist (Taunka), Highmountain, Thunderhorn, Grimtotem, Dawnstrider, Ragetotem, Bloodhoof
    Troll-Darkspear, Revantusk
    Forsaken-Undead (current), Recently passed (like Nathanos), High Elf (like Dark Rangers), leper gnome

    I don't think anything would really fit for blood elves, goblins, worgen, gnomes, or pandaren (and that's okay!). Lightforged and Highmountain are up there mostly for gits and shiggles. Even if it has no bearing on gameplay, I think a lot of folks would get excited just to be able to claim a particular clan for their Tauren or their dwarf (I know I would), and have the cosmetic options to back it up.

    Some of these are less likely, certainly. They'd require armor rigging, face animations, female models. Things like Forest Trolls, Taunka, Leper Gnomes, Krokul. But most could be implemented with color swaps and changes/additions to skin textures. That's what I'd expect (and hope for) out of subraces.

  6. #166
    I'm leaving this here. Not sure if anyone has posted it before me.

    http://www.wowhead.com/spell=253233/...cast-transform

    Almost confirms that the Void Elves will be like Alleria's Voidform.
    Void Elf Priest


  7. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by Melius View Post
    and you have pandarens that look exactly the same on A and H. dont see a problem with high elves
    That's because you're looking at it incorrectly. The reason high elves do not exist is because blood elves are the reason Horde and Alliance are relatively balanced.

    If you added high elves and half of the blood elves rerolled Alliance, Alliance would dramatically outnumber the Horde. This would not be a good situation for either faction.

    High elves will never be added. It's not because the race is too boring, or that it wouldn't make sense in lore (though both of these apply as well, they wouldn't stop Blizzard from adding a desired race), the only reason that Blizzard will never add high elves is because it would devastate faction balance and almost certainly throw us back into the classic era of ludicrous battleground queues and faction dominance.

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    In other news, I'm excited to hear about this potential leak. I hope it's true (though not at the expense of new races/classes). I've wanted the dwarf trio for years, and I can think of plenty of other races that could do with some more options, too.

  8. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by therealbowser View Post
    That's because you're looking at it incorrectly. The reason high elves do not exist is because blood elves are the reason Horde and Alliance are relatively balanced.

    If you added high elves and half of the blood elves rerolled Alliance, Alliance would dramatically outnumber the Horde. This would not be a good situation for either faction.

    High elves will never be added. It's not because the race is too boring, or that it wouldn't make sense in lore (though both of these apply as well, they wouldn't stop Blizzard from adding a desired race), the only reason that Blizzard will never add high elves is because it would devastate faction balance and almost certainly throw us back into the classic era of ludicrous battleground queues and faction dominance.

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    In other news, I'm excited to hear about this potential leak. I hope it's true (though not at the expense of new races/classes). I've wanted the dwarf trio for years, and I can think of plenty of other races that could do with some more options, too.
    I think you are vastly overestimating the number of people who would reroll

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