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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Oberyn Martell View Post
    What does media coverage matter? The facts and numbers are usually public access for anyone to check.
    It's a matter of breaking down crime stats into racial categories, which a number of countries don't do. Private firms and third parties still compile the information anyway, but it runs the risk of being inaccurate and is too often dismissed (even if you cite estimates on the lower end, which still paint a less-than-favorable depiction for certain groups).

    Haven't heard that before. I was simply giving an example from a Joe Rogan podcast in which the assertion was made that immigrants were overrunning the country by Trumpkins and their ilk, while any quick research done showed that the numbers didn't support the whole fearmongering that Republicans did with it.
    Yes, the problem isn't immigrants, and on a national level (individual states are somewhat different), they're not a huge problem. Most people understand on some level that "immigrant" is simply a more polite way of hinting at nonwhites.

    Non-whites overrunning the country, uh? That seems like a really weird thing to worry or make a point about. Does it even matter if non-whites would be becoming more numerous than whites? Tell white people to fuck more, what difference does it make, white or black or colored you're all americans... Who even lays awake at night worrying about how many % of the people around them are white or not?
    Oh yes, totally weird. It's not like nonwhites have assimilation problems, or disproportionately do things that whites don't, or vote against white interests. No, they're as American as apple pie! And they see themselves that way, they're happy to stand shoulder to shoulder with me!

    Also, there's some evidence to suggest that racial diversity undermines social trust and social cohesion ("Bowling Alone," granted, given his position, Putnam's gone into damage control). It's also not controversial in the slightest (considering how prevalent the thinking is in PoliSci texts), to suggest that left-wing economic programs are much harder to set up in multiracial societies. As someone who finds themselves in the center economically (Far left relative to the American spectrum), it's extraordinarily frustrating. Especially when you think of how much money could be reallocated towards public universities, or state-run healthcare if we didn't have such a diverse population. Hell, even when you assign 100% of military spending to whites, they're still one of two groups that are net contributors.

    Honestly, the left has been sidelined by "minority issues," other problems aside, this is intensely frustrating.

    And let's not pretend demographics are trivial and only ridiculous people worry about them, or consider them to be noteworthy. Colbert, when speaking to Ta-nehisi Coates, referenced the decline of the white majority, asking if there was "a chance for change" once whites become a minority. Various noteworthy "Left-wing" activists have made similar comments. They all boil down to their agenda having an easier time passing once whites lose their majority status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerWolf View Post
    I am against all forms of censorship. Manipulated censorship does nothing more than aid current Governments; i.e. -- biased propaganda.
    The original article has nothing to do with censorship in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allybeboba View Post
    It’s the usual don’t attack the arguement, just attack the source mantra that this site has become legendary for.
    But there is no argument, there is just fact. Remember that I did not make any mention of the law or its effects. I simply explained to you why you do not hear about those supposed hatecrimes here - because that site is purposefully misrepresenting a situation, as they have certifiably done in the past.

    This affects the argument insofar that the op used the biased article to push his narrative, which does not shine through as much in the more neutral and factual German article. By putting those two side by side and posting this on an English-speaking board, this could be seen as an attempt to make it seem as if the English article is simply an English language version of the German one, which it is not. It is thus important to note that the second source has had fabrications to support biased narratives before.

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