Should sexual harassment be a criminal offence?

[Daedius]

Sexual assault is sexual assault, but sexual harassment is too subjective that can be easily abused and fabricated... so no.

[Deleted]

I think you could make a case that if it rose to the levels that we'd consider regular harassment charges for the same behaviour if non-sexual, you could consider sexual harassment a step up from that.

So, for instance, calling someone's house at all hours to annoy them is "criminal harassment", while calling someone's house to breathe heavily into the phone and make lewd statements would be "sexual harassment", and carry a somewhat stronger penalty.

Though we're talking relatively low-end stuff overall, here, in terms of criminal infractions.

If we're just talking about Danny from work shouting "nice tits!" at the new girl in the office, then I'd agree that shouldn't be criminal, just handled in the office administratively.

You literally showed why it's not a problem.

We already have Criminal harassment in the UK, we don't need a special snowflake term for women who can abuse it to all hell.

[urasim]

using your position to extract sexual favours? Yes.

Good luck proving that.

I take it you're against prostitution as well?

[Aeula]

Good luck proving that.

I take it you're against prostitution as well?

Nope I’m not.

But going up to someone and saying “Sex me up or get fired” seems kinda shitty. Although I guess that’d be wrongful dismissal or something.

[Allerius]

No, speech is just speech and should be protected sexual or not. If getting propositioned or catcalled triggers you then grow the fuck up you snowflake. Groping aka sexual assault is a different matter.

Also thank god I don't live in these countries with weak as shit constitutions.

[Endus]

You literally showed why it's not a problem.

We already have Criminal harassment in the UK, we don't need a special snowflake term for women who can abuse it to all hell.

Why'd you make it about gender out of nowhere? Sexual harassment laws are gender agnostic.

[Elim Garak]

Harassment is already a crime. No need to specialize.

[Deleted]

Why'd you make it about gender out of nowhere? Sexual harassment laws are gender agnostic.

Because the OP is gendered to all fuck.

You have a woman's advocacy group arguing that Sexual harassment should be a criminal charge on the grounds that 2/3rds of women are "Sexually Harassed"

This stands only to benefit women because Sexual harassment is mostly used as a power play tool for women.

[LiiLoSNK]

I'd let a super fat ugly chick sexually harass me and not call the cops on her, but I'd at least want to be able to tell her fat ass to go away without getting accused of sexual harassment myself.

[Deleted]

Sure, why not, might put a stop to misogynist men.

[Allybeboba]

Too subjective.
What someone might call harassing another may not.
Almost like the rules on this forum.

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Sure, why not, might put a stop to misogynist men.

But not women? That is where the problem lies.

[Deleted]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41828881



Personally I find this difficult - I don't think sexual harassment outside of work should be punishable but there definitely needs to be a point before sexual assault that is, such as sexually threatening behaviour or consistent inappropriate touching for both sexes

Isn't it...? Pretty sure you can get convicted for it... Maybe it's just in my country.

[melodramocracy]

Absolutely.

Up next: Why are prostitutes and porn seeing a sudden uptick in popularity? Why are birth rates declining?

[Deleted]

So I can flip off a cop to his face and call him a dick-headed bitch while he does nothing, but if I say hello to a girl that has never met me before, the cop can now taser me until i shit myself and then drag me to jail?

What kind of retard world are you kids trying to live in? Fuck.

I'm pretty sure that would get you into trouble

[Darknessvamp]

The problem with a law like this is that people have different thresholds and classifications for what constitutes harassment never mind whether or not it's of a sexual nature and considering the recent culture of triggering, the ease of "cry wolf" style attacks and he said, she said arguments with little no evidence it would be fairly difficult to create a credible law covering sexual harassment. Certainly there are cases which stand out and should be dealt with via law e.g. unwanted delivery of images of a sexual nature, dogged pursuit of sexual favours in inappropriate context or situations or constant inappropriate communication of a sexual nature would definitely fit the bill but something like Catcalling, how someone looks at you and non-invasive touching are also the sorts of thing people think should come under such a law and frankly shouldn't.

[Deleted]

It doesn't really matter, it seems that an allegation automatically means guilty these days

No it doesn't don't be silly

[Deleted]

No it doesn't don't be silly

So if you got accused of Sexual harassment at your workplace right now, there wouldn't be a full blown official inquiry?

[LiiLoSNK]

I'm pretty sure that would get you into trouble

Not in America. They can't do anything about it. I don't do it, but I enjoy knowing I can. Cops in my area are actually extremely nice.

I did actually do it once while hammered drunk and then immediately fell back in my bar stool and onto the ground when I was 21. The cop helped me up and even let me stay at the bar. The local PD are pretty great.

[Deleted]

Not in America. They can't do anything about it. I don't do it, but I enjoy knowing I can. Cops in my area are actually extremely nice.

Well, in the UK it's perfectly legal too, but the Police officer is just as entitled to tell you to fuck off.

[Fonduset]

No it doesn't don't be silly

I shall re word it. "Assumes guilty"