Ashbringer ! Ashbringer ! Ashbringer !

[Boubouille]

Nothing below is confirmed yet

We won't see the argent dawn in Northrend ... Weird, there are tons of undead here. Who the hell could help killing them ?

Tirion Fordring will reorder and lead the Silver Hand in Northrend ... with the help of [item=13262] ! Which means that the sword could perfectly not be available to players. Actually, according to screenshots from the Blizzcon found on the web, he's wielding it in Valgarde !!

This would also confirm the huge hint "We are considering going back to Naxx when we get to Northrend" during the Raid & Dungeon panel.

[Tyrsenus]

Blizzard has been a real c-tease with Ashbringer. NPC's have mentioned it since beta, and every time Blizzard talks about it they seem to only push it back.

There's more lore behind Ashbinger than any other item in-game. It will be interesting to see how this pans out; I've been thinking that it may end up being the one thing that can defeat the Lich King.

Ashbringer at wowwiki.

[Ultramonkey]

Wasn't Tirion Fordring banished from The Order of the Silver Hand and stripped of his powers for assaulting soldiers after assisting Eitrigg? Gonna be a nice storyline incoming

[Duskster]

Wasn't Tirion Fordring banished from The Order of the Silver Hand and stripped of his powers for assaulting soldiers after assisting Eitrigg? Gonna be a nice storyline incoming

He was, but an old quest chain in EPL has the player take disguise as a member of the Scarlett Crusade to help bring around his son, Highlord Taelen Fordring, to how corrupted the Scarlet Crusade had become. The event culminates in Taelen's death at the hands of Inquisitor Isilliean (sp?) after a brief confrontation. Tirion avenges his son's death by slaying the inquisitor and swears an oath to resurrect the Silver Hand.

[Ultramonkey]

Wasn't Tirion Fordring banished from The Order of the Silver Hand and stripped of his powers for assaulting soldiers after assisting Eitrigg? Gonna be a nice storyline incoming

He was, but an old quest chain in EPL has the player take disguise as a member of the Scarlett Crusade to help bring around his son, Highlord Taelen Fordring, to how corrupted the Scarlet Crusade had become. The event culminates in Taelen's death at the hands of Inquisitor Isilliean (sp?) after a brief confrontation. Tirion avenges his son's death by slaying the inquisitor and swears an oath to resurrect the Silver Hand.

So The Order of the Silver Hand is being led by a powerless Paladin, seems a bit farfetched to me.

[Kaziel]

So The Order of the Silver Hand is being led by a powerless Paladin, seems a bit farfetched to me.

He's not powerless. They stripped him of his rank and position and claimed they stripped him of his power. While they were able to do the first and second, but it is beyond them to strip him of his power, for it was not a power given to him by the leaders of the Order of the Silver Hand, but from something far greater. They merely taught him how to tap into that power. Afterwards, he was shown to still have the ability to tap into the Holy Light, since he maintained the true meaning of being a Paladin by staying true to his word in the face of opposition. His strength of character is well worthy of one who should lead the reborn Order.

[Kodama]

@Ultramonkey

Though a ceremony to strip Tirion of his power was performed, it failed for unknown reasons.
See Tirion Fordring @ WoWWiki for "The Eitrigg Incident".

[Smith]

powerless Paladin

Redundant.

Three cheers for possibly doing something with Naxx.

Oh and my main is a Paladin.

[Ultramonkey]

Would be great if Eitrigg went to Northrend and there was an event where they fought side by side.

[bug]

Melee:
Thunderfury
Sulfuron
Warblade 1
Warlblade 2

Hunter:
nothing confirmed yet

Caster:
Atiesh

Healers:
Atiesh


Why should they implement a new legendary melee weapon?
Atiesh: 4 Classes had to reach end content, before BC comes out, to battle for 1 legendary!!! this was maybe possible for 0.0001% of all wow players
Sulfuron/Thunderfury: were spread out for nearly everyone, because you had 2 years time to loot it. there were 100 of it on every server.
illidan warblades: same thing as atiesh, but again, melee weapon


i see no reason, why you should speculate about another legendary for the same classes, like everytime


there is still no
- shadowpriest legendary
- hunter legendary
- restor pally legendary
- restor shamane legendary
- moonkin legendary
and nearly unreachable caster/healer legendarys in old content

why should they have plans to implement
a new fifth warrior legendary?


ya blabla retri pally, that doenst changes anything of the problem

[Avatar343]

www.ashbringer.com

If you are willing to cover some stuff that is not "professional" or proof thru SS, i was able to discuss ashbringer with Chris and Alex at the event, and i put some of the highlights of the convo on the forums there

biggest being, players cant get the sword T_T.........well right now, hopefully that changes

[Arames]

With the Naxxaramas Patch, we learned that Lord Fordring founded the Brotherhood of the Light. See the conversation at the table in Light's Hope Chapel for proof. Something to the effect of "I will inform Lord Fordring and his knights that you are no longer here on friendly terms. I'm sure that would be happy to see to your atonement"

Also, if you pay attention to the story he tells you learn that he never lost his powers of the Light.

[Tyrsenus]

With the Naxxaramas Patch, we learned that Lord Fordring founded the Brotherhood of the Light. See the conversation at the table in Light's Hope Chapel for proof. Something to the effect of "I will inform Lord Fordring and his knights that you are no longer here on friendly terms. I'm sure that would be happy to see to your atonement"

Also, if you pay attention to the story he tells you learn that he never lost his powers of the Light.

That quote (which you paraphrased) is said by Eligor Dawnbringer to Scarlet Commander Marjhan. The Fordring being referred to is his Taelan Fordring (the Scarlet Highlord), as Marjhan reports to him and not Tirion (who is not part of the Scarlet Crusade). Dawnbringer is threatening to reveal the alliance that Marjhan made with AD and BoL behind Taelan's back.

"Now be silent and note where you are, lest I inform Lord Fordring and his knights that you are no longer here on amicable terms. I am certain he would take great pleasure in seeing to your 'atonement.'" -Eligor Dawnbringer

[Ultramonkey]

Melee:
Thunderfury
Sulfuron
Warblade 1
Warlblade 2

Hunter:
nothing confirmed yet

Caster:
Atiesh

Healers:
Atiesh


Why should they implement a new legendary melee weapon?
Atiesh: 4 Classes had to reach end content, before BC comes out, to battle for 1 legendary!!! this was maybe possible for 0.0001% of all wow players
Sulfuron/Thunderfury: were spread out for nearly everyone, because you had 2 years time to loot it. there were 100 of it on every server.
illidan warblades: same thing as atiesh, but again, melee weapon


i see no reason, why you should speculate about another legendary for the same classes, like everytime


there is still no
- shadowpriest legendary
- hunter legendary
- restor pally legendary
- restor shamane legendary
- moonkin legendary
and nearly unreachable caster/healer legendarys in old content

why should they have plans to implement
a new fifth warrior legendary?


ya blabla retri pally, that doenst changes anything of the problem

So there should be legendaries for every spec for every class? and when Hand of Ragnaros was obtainable, Molten Core was end-game and all legendaries have been like that, casters were just unlucky for Naxx to be the final 40 man raid before TBC.

[IceBox]

Well, seems like they destroyed one of the reason why I planned to buy the expansion...
Man I hoped that they really implement it in BC, but there was still hope that it may make it into the next xp and now that.

To all those hunters out there, for me they could just do an epic version of the cleansed Ashbringer, it doesn't even have to be state of the art, give it 130 dps so you can use it for levelling (check Jin'rokh of Zul'Aman with 128 DPS + 100 AP)
I just want that they finish the storyline...

[sarcasm on
Oh just to add some whinage, there is still no reliable possibility for Warriors to solo those trees in Skettis without a healer on my neck so don't cry little hunterboy
[sarcasm off]

[Dagonite]

Hunters

* A legendary ranged weapon will be available soon. (New 25 Man raid ?)

Definantly NO Legendary hunter weapon...

[matchbox]

hunters are getting a legendary with ZA

[Diaar]

lol...all that whining and then

Hunters

* A legendary ranged weapon will be available soon. (New 25 Man raid ?)

[Fille]

Ok so I just have to say something... Cuz it kind of blew my mind when I thought of it. (sorry for all the typos incomming) Blizz have stated that there is a new CoT instance comming in the expantion. Maby this instance will be the expedition to Blackrock Spire where commander Mograine went when he found the tainted crystal Ashbringer is made off. (In CoT:Escape from durnholde, if you go to southshore when you are in the instanse you will se Mograine among others making the crystal pure.) And just maby you are able to loot the same crystal and having it remade. As a realy rare questline from Naxx states, the Ashbringer can be remade by Mograine´s second son who is hiding in outlands. Btw have any of you guys seen the Blacksmith hiding in estern terokkar on a very strange place ^^

[darkra]

First of all, about the non appearance of the Argent Dawn: Practical Reason: No way they were going to use a faction much of the player base is exalted with 2+ years now. Lore reason: Tirion Fordring has re-established the Order of the Silver-Hand, and if i remember my lore correctly AD and Scarlet Crusade are the 2 groups that formed when Silver Hand broke apart, so I guess now Tirion reformed them most of AD must have merged back in.

According to a guy that claims to have talked to Chris Metzen and Alex (the Quest chief his last name i forget) at Blizzcon, Alliance players will have a quest chain at Valgarde to reforge the sword and give it to Tirion, but it will be an NPC-weilded weapon, not attainable by players. The guy sounds legit, and the story is partially confirmed by the screenies we have...

I guess we'll just have to w8 to see :P