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    Enhancement Shaman Flametongue And spelldmg

    Have any well geared enhancement shaman tried to use flametongue weapon buff on the offhand weapon and compare it vs windfury on the offhand weapon?

    Flametongue weapon buff gets benefit from spelldamage and a well geared enhancement shaman will have base spelldamage of 450+strengthtotem*2*30%+10%ap*30% and so on.

    I intend to test it tonight, if someone has done that test already plz enlighten us in this topic

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    Re: Enhancement Shaman Flametongue And spelldmg

    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc
    WF should never be on ur offhand. Because of what they did to WF its no longer the best DPS method to do WF on both weapons(50% less dmg b/c it's on ur OH and the 3 second nerf). I use frostbrand because i haven't found a really slow OH yet. The slower your weapon is, the better flametounge will be.
    You really have no idea of what you are talking about...

    1) At the moment, WF on offhand is better than FT.
    2) If you have high +dmg, faster weapon with FT is better than a slow weapon.
    3) Who the hell use frostband?! Rockbiter while you are at it?
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    Re: Enhancement Shaman Flametongue And spelldmg

    If you stack spell damage then yes, it will be better. But from what i have seen WF doesn't work for me. Just my opinion, you don't have to listen to me or insult me.

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    Re: Enhancement Shaman Flametongue And spelldmg

    WF should never be on ur offhand. Because of what they did to WF its no longer the best DPS method to do WF on both weapons(50% less dmg b/c it's on ur OH and the 3 second nerf). I use frostbrand because i haven't found a really slow OH yet. The slower your weapon is, the better flametounge will be.

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    Re: Enhancement Shaman Flametongue And spelldmg

    Quote Originally Posted by jpillz
    A+ ty very good forum...

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    Re: Enhancement Shaman Flametongue And spelldmg

    Ok i did my dps tests yesterday night,

    i was at 1911attack power stable, with a trinket proc-ing to 2211, occasionaly

    i did 1.000.000 dmg on the poor blastedlands mob, using Windfury buff on my mh [item]syphon of the nathrezim[/item] and flametongue buff on my offhand [item]Merciless Gladiator Cleaver[/item]
    I was about 905dps on just autohiting and retoteming

    I did 1.000.000 dmg again on the poor blasted lands mob, using Windfury buff on my mh [item]syphon of the nathrezim[/item] and Windfury buff on my offhand [item]Merciless Gladiator Cleaver[/item]
    I was about 960dps on just autohiting and retoteming.

    Whatever 6 or 7% less damage, flametongue weapon buff is not as good as windfury buff on the offhand even with 573-663 spelldmg from attack power

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    Re: Enhancement Shaman Flametongue And spelldmg

    bit offtopic but wich blastedland mob is that u tested on ??

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    Re: Enhancement Shaman Flametongue And spelldmg

    there are several types of mobs, they are all name "servant of xxx"
    their hp stops to fall at 1%, making them unkillable.
    theri is a related quest though, if you have it you can kill tham

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    Re: Enhancement Shaman Flametongue And spelldmg

    i remember when you could kite those things to major cities...but thats blizzard for you , ruining our fun....

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    Re: Enhancement Shaman Flametongue And spelldmg

    Quote Originally Posted by voskopoula
    Ok i did my dps tests yesterday night,

    i was at 1911attack power stable, with a trinket proc-ing to 2211, occasionaly

    i did 1.000.000 dmg on the poor blastedlands mob, using Windfury buff on my mh [item]syphon of the nathrezim[/item] and flametongue buff on my offhand [item]Merciless Gladiator Cleaver[/item]
    I was about 905dps on just autohiting and retoteming

    I did 1.000.000 dmg again on the poor blasted lands mob, using Windfury buff on my mh [item]syphon of the nathrezim[/item] and Windfury buff on my offhand [item]Merciless Gladiator Cleaver[/item]
    I was about 960dps on just autohiting and retoteming.

    Whatever 6 or 7% less damage, flametongue weapon buff is not as good as windfury buff on the offhand even with 573-663 spelldmg from attack power
    While I certainly salute the time and effort put into this it is worth noting that those mobs are about 13 levels below you and effectively stunned for the duration of the test.

    This means that your melee crit chance would be artificially high while fighting them, and their armor is far lower than the typical mobs you are going to be fighting in a raid. Both of these factors will skew the numbers in favor of windfury. Whether or not this will change the conclusion I don't know as I don't know exactly how much of a difference this will make but it is worth noting at the least.

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    Re: Enhancement Shaman Flametongue And spelldmg

    download reccount and check the numbers it gives you.

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