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    Penetration in PvE

    Ive always wondered but never been informed as to if spell penetration does actually lower the resistances to spells on PvE mobs and bosses.
    Any information would be nice

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    Re: Penetration in PvE

    long story short, no. warlock curses doo dat. supremus and rage winterchill are the only exception afaik.
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    Re: Penetration in PvE

    So its a useless PvE stat huh... great i wish they would find a usefull gem that would fit into a blue socket that doesnt have stam on it :

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    Re: Penetration in PvE

    Just because its a blue socket, doesnt mean you have to put a blue gem in it.

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    Re: Penetration in PvE

    Lag - Network related. High server response time, stop downloading.
    Low FPS - Your computer can't keep up with the game - buy a better one

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    Re: Penetration in PvE

    Quote Originally Posted by Toejhomas
    Just because its a blue socket, doesnt mean you have to put a blue gem in it.
    also stam is still nice with all the aoe fights and raid damage, dead caster isnt doing any damage, unless its an affi lock ofc

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    greenmasheen
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    Re: Penetration in PvE

    i see mages doing BT/Sunwell with penetration on the cloak...?

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    Re: Penetration in PvE

    Quote Originally Posted by greenmasheen
    i see mages doing BT/Sunwell with penetration on the cloak...?
    because there are no caster enchants for cloak other than subtlety

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    Re: Penetration in PvE

    120 armor! all the way

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    greenmasheen
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    Re: Penetration in PvE

    Quote Originally Posted by td-
    because there are no caster enchants for cloak other than subtlety
    subtlety would be useful in that it keeps you under the tanks threat table.

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    Re: Penetration in PvE

    Quote Originally Posted by greenmasheen
    i see mages doing BT/Sunwell with penetration on the cloak...?
    Because they apparently fail and haven't gotten Subtley to cloak. Only way to go for Healers/Casters.
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    Re: Penetration in PvE

    Quote Originally Posted by Vereku
    Because they apparently fail and haven't gotten Subtley to cloak. Only way to go for Healers/Casters.
    They are mages, don't need to worry about threat! :P
    That or they use the same back for PvP.

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    Re: Penetration in PvE

    Quote Originally Posted by greenmasheen
    i see mages doing BT/Sunwell with penetration on the cloak...?
    I've seen a mage in T5 with blue melee crit jewels on the gear :P

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    Re: Penetration in PvE

    Quote Originally Posted by wattsie15
    So its a useless PvE stat huh...
    Yes.

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    Re: Penetration in PvE

    Quote Originally Posted by Krypt
    long story short, no. warlock curses doo dat. supremus and rage winterchill are the only exception afaik.
    Warlock curses don't work for nature *crai*

    Penetration does have a noticeable effect on my lightning bolts in pve.

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    Re: Penetration in PvE

    Ok, to add nothing to this conversation


    I love penetration during raids... it make me happy ??? :P
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    Re: Penetration in PvE

    Quote Originally Posted by chaud
    They are mages, don't need to worry about threat! :P
    That or they use the same back for PvP.
    This ~1.2% additional aggro reduce (2% enchant, sdr/talent) won't make a big difference.
    Normally you'll use Invisibility before you get that close (and that's not very often).

    Penetration or Subtlety are both more or less usefull/less for mages in PVE.

    So I prefered penetration, since it helps at supremus and the case there isn't a CoE up (WL dead, trashmobs, 10/5 mans etc).

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    Re: Penetration in PvE

    Quote Originally Posted by chaud
    They are mages, don't need to worry about threat! :P
    EXACTLY! no dmg = no threat!

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    Re: Penetration in PvE

    Quote Originally Posted by topfer
    Penetration does have a noticeable effect on my lightning bolts in pve.
    What PvE, exactly? Last I checked the vast majority of 25-man TBC raid bosses have no spell resistances.

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