Strength of Earth totem

[Typh00n]

I am a little confused at one point:

Strength of Earth totem gives 86 strength untalented while Grace of Air gives 77 Agility.

Will it remain the same or will it be:

Strength of Earth Totem: Increases strength and agility by 86...............etc etc
or
Strength of Earth Totem: Increases Strength by 86 and Agilty by 77.......etc etc

Secondly, what will happen to the T4 2-piece set bonus. Though this has little importance

[Luk3ling]

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=25528

86 to both before talents.

[Typh00n]

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=25528

86 to both before talents.

Sweet, thanks. Missed that
Woop, minor buff!

[Luk3ling]

Sweet, thanks. Missed that
Woop, minor buff!

Major buff*

We can have WF and Str/Agi down now

And to top it all off; Windfury Totem buffs us now too.

[Typh00n]

Ofcourse, i knew about that. But 9 extra agility is a minor buff :P

[Balduvian]

Major buff*

We can have WF and Str/Agi down now

And to top it all off; Windfury Totem buffs us now too.

Windfury chance could be nice, but 15% base mana cost for a totem with 5 hp? Hit it 1 time and you've just wasted 15% base mana..

[Qrio]

It's one thing to waste 15% mana, and completely different to waste 15% BASE mana. Remember, base mana is your mana pool while not wearing anything.

[Prefix]

For example cure poison costs 7% base mana now, which in my case is 207 mana.
So 15% base mana would be like 450 mana at the moment. Not that big of a deal

[Balduvian]

Remember, base mana is your mana pool while not wearing anything.

Hmm, playing for 4 years now, didn't even know this :-X :.
My bad

[Qrio]

Happens Still, combining Strength and Agility totems, and giving the option to get the new WF totem is quite a buff for melee classes.

[topfer]

keep in mind that windfury is no longer a weapon enchantment either, so melee can do stuff like use sharpening stones or poisons, and shaman themselves benefit from personal windfury enchants *and* the totem itself.

its a *massive* boost, not even a minor one..

[Alltat]

15% of base mana isn't much more than what it costs now, so that's not as much of a change as it might sound like. To get an idea of how much it will cost, have a look at your cleansing totems. They currently cost 8% of base mana, so slightly less than twice of what they cost now.


Also note that all totems that have only one rank (except Tremor and Sentry) currently cost a percentage of base mana. Disease/Poison Cleansing, Tranquil Air, Grounding, Earthbind, Mana Tide, Totem of Wrath.

[sahria]

tbh i don't really see why anyone could bitch about 15% base mana, think how much mana you actually save because you no longer have to totem twist.
in pvp no-one really bothers killing anyhting but mana tide and occasionally windfury.

[Amgyn]

im a little confused..

as a shaman can i have, WF totem and WF weapon buff AND counter-weight?!

[sahria]

im a little confused..

as a shaman can i have, WF totem and WF weapon buff AND counter-weight?!

no WF totem and WF weapon.
rogues will have WF Totem and Poisons
warriors will have WF Totem and counterweight/sharpening stone.
feral druids will probably still suck.

[Neruat]

feral druids will probably still suck.

as DPS i hope you mean:P! for tanking, the new WF totem is really nice=)

[Intwine]

hehe, the new WF totems is great >period<.

the only ones that get raped is Hunters, but they got nothing out of the previous wf either so /care.
They will be glad SOE is a earth totem, no more whines about 'can i plix plix have agi totem instead of WF for the melee'

[paxilpwns]

Well reguardless of who wants what in your raid/ group now you are ultimately THE deciding factor of what is needed. I routinely ignore the 1 warrior or rogue that wants WF when there is 2 or more ppl that would benefit from GoA. Even if I choose to put down GoA, I will also put down FT so they won't wine as much.

[Guran]

no WF totem and WF weapon.
rogues will have WF Totem and Poisons
warriors will have WF Totem and counterweight/sharpening stone.
feral druids will probably still suck.

Mana Oils for powershifting probably

[Guran]

hehe, the new WF totems is great >period<.

the only ones that get raped is Hunters, but they got nothing out of the previous wf either so /care.
They will be glad SOE is a earth totem, no more whines about 'can i plix plix have agi totem instead of WF for the melee'

Actually, they will. They will no longer clip auto-shot with yellow abilities which means morebenefit out of haste.

Oh, and MM is getting a mini-WF talent :P (10% chance on extra 60% dmg shot on auto-shots)