WotLK Beta - Build 8681 Update

[bbr]

Do you know which are the buffs for the other professions?

Made a summary here : http://rrvs.blogspot.com/2008/07/wotlk-beta-update.html
Most of what's known and expected listed, with a full summary of stats at the bottom.

Leatherworking : 31-149,75 stats + BoP armor
Enchanting : 40 stats + BoP Wands
Blacksmithing : 40 stats expected + BoP weapons or armor.
Tailoring : 31 stats expected + BoP Clothing
Jewelcrafting : 30 stats expected + BoP Trinkets
Mining : 25 stats
Skinning : 25 stats
Alchemy : ~10-20 stats + BoP Trinkets
Inscription : Unknown + Extra glyph
Engineering : Unknown + BoP Goggles?

[fr0hzn]

Mage
Class changes list in the work, check the updated talent calculator for all the changes
Fire

• World in Flames - Moved to Tier 2, Increases the critical strike chance of your Flamestrike, Blast Wave, Dragon's Breath, Living Bomb, Blizzard and Arcane Explosion spells by 2/4/6%.

They are real, aren't they?
LoL.

GG Blizz, do you know your game mechanics?
Blizzard simply CAN'T CRIT.
Urhm... As far as I know. ;D

[Trigga]

Mage
Class changes list in the work, check the updated talent calculator for all the changes
Fire

• World in Flames - Moved to Tier 2, Increases the critical strike chance of your Flamestrike, Blast Wave, Dragon's Breath, Living Bomb, Blizzard and Arcane Explosion spells by 2/4/6%.

They are real, aren't they?
LoL.

GG Blizz, do you know your game mechanics?
Blizzard simply CAN'T CRIT.
Urhm... As far as I know. ;D

It can in wrath apperently

[fr0hzn]

It can in wrath apperently

AoE-grinding - hooray!
No ... really? It can crit? O.o

[blitzcrieg]

Master of Elements - Fire and frost wording removed, now your spell criticals will refund 10% of their base mana cost

I wonder how this will work with arcane missiles if one burst crit is the entire spell going to get the mana reduction?

[Marvdatboi]

I'm Loving the new mage changes... keep it up Blizz. It seems sometimes you just gotta QQ to get things heard amirite warlocks... oh noezs dont nerf Life Tapz!

[Legionn]

They should let enchanters enchant their belts and necklace as well. Compared to the stat increase on all the gear and misc. things the other professions can get, enchanters are getting shafted big time.

[Arcano]

They should let enchanters enchant their belts and necklace as well. Compared to the stat increase on all the gear and misc. things the other professions can get, enchanters are getting shafted big time.

LOL NO, they already can enchant their rings. why would they give them more advantages

[Legionn]

Like I said, as a tank that I am I get a womping 8pt increase in my stats, WOW that is a real advantage. Compared to what a majority of the other professions can make for themselves if you think enchanters are on par you're sadly mistaken.

[Koloria]

Like I said, as a tank that I am I get a womping 8pt increase in my stats, WOW that is a real advantage. Compared to what a majority of the other professions can make for themselves if you think enchanters are on par you're sadly mistaken.

The difference being anything that can be made by another profession can be replaced by something better somewhere else. It may be more difficult to get that replacement but nonetheless it CAN be replaced. There is NO replacement or substitute for the self-only ring enchants, adding more slots with self-only enchants would elevate this profession beyond what any other could ever hope to accomplish.

[Legionn]

That's BS cuase with just about every patch new patterns can come out for just about every profession, but enchanters are still stuck with the only thing they can enchant for themselves are the rings. With each new instance that comes out, new patterns with bop items they can make for themsevles with stats that are far beyond what the two rings will give any enchanter.

[Marvdatboi]

That's BS cuase with just about every patch new patterns can come out for just about every profession, but enchanters are still stuck with the only thing they can enchant for themselves are the rings. With each new instance that comes out, new patterns with bop items they can make for themsevles with stats that are far beyond what the two rings will give any enchanter.

Enchanters are getting a crap load of new patterns in the expansion not to mention whatever they will cook up in the Past. The two ring enchants are fine everyone will gain access to glyphs... inscribers will just gain one more no big deal.

[Legionn]

Every profession will get a ton on new things to make, that isn't the problem. The problem is all those enchants will still be for everyone and we will just still have the only thing to enchant for ourselves will be the rings. Everyone else will have multiple things to make for themselves yet we will still only be able to enchant our rings, do you get it yet.

[Marvdatboi]

Every profession will get a ton on new things to make, that isn't the problem. The problem is all those enchants will still be for everyone and we will just still have the only thing to enchant for ourselves will be the rings. Everyone else will have multiple things to make for themselves yet we will still only be able to enchant our rings, do you get it yet.

Enchanting your rings is a profession exclusive not everyone has enchanting so its safe t osay you already have an edge their. Youll have a greater edge if you take up inscription.

[Legionn]

How can you guys not understand this yet. And I'm not talking about the second profession we can do. What I'm saying is that out of all the things that are crafted for those professions, there are multiple items exclusive to the majority of the professions except enchanting, we get the rings. THAT'S IT. Patch, after patch, after patch there is no improvement to it. Other professions get new exclusive things to make for themselves, enchanters still have the same old thing. And I'm not talking about anything they can make for anyone else, just the ones that are exclusive to that profession.

[Digitrevx]

So what about alchemy

[Marvdatboi]

How can you guys not understand this yet. And I'm not talking about the second profession we can do. What I'm saying is that out of all the things that are crafted for those professions, there are multiple items exclusive to the majority of the professions except enchanting, we get the rings. THAT'S IT. Patch, after patch, after patch there is no improvement to it. Other professions get new exclusive things to make for themselves, enchanters still have the same old thing. And I'm not talking about anything they can make for anyone else, just the ones that are exclusive to that profession.

Not all Proffessions are the same so if you pickup a crafting one your bound to have exclusives. Enchanting is the only profession that doesn't depend on another one. The ring enchants are good and you get to enchant any items you have that in itself is huge. Why should you gain even more advantages while being able to use glyphs like everyone else.

[Legionn]

Why the hell do people keep bringing up the glyphs, I'm not talking about the glyphs or care about the glyphs. And who gives a crap if enchanting is capable of being used on it's own, that's not what this discussion is about. All I'm talking about is the fact that enchanters ONLY get to enchant their rings, while a majority of the other professions keep getting exclusive items to make for themselves which are far better for them than what enchanters can do for their rings.