WotLK Beta Blue Posts, WoW Russian Release

[Darv101]

From a post on the first page of the website:

Class changes deployment frequency during Beta Test
Seriously though, it's easier for to focus on only a couple of classes at a time. We find that way we are more in sync on the direction of the class and its problems. We don't work in an environment where each person goes to their desk, throws in the talents for one class, and then we pour them all into the game. A lot of the time it's 10% actual talent implementation and 90% brainstorming and discussion.

Mages recently got a fair amount of attention and death knights always do, just because they have the most catching up to do to the years of analysis and design that's been done on the other classes.

But even then, you're more likely to see ability changes than number adjusting. We need to feel like the abilities have a chance of working out before we go into the mode of comparing everyone's dps and threat and survival in a variety of situations. The encounter design and item design need to be at that level too. We're still debating things like encounters and raid stacking will work. Think about all the changes: many stats are universal now (meaning melee hit and spell hit are the same as far as items are concerned), most buffs affect the entire raid, we're trying to offer fewer very specialized items as random drops, etc. etc. It ends up being a lot of changes all with ramifications for every class. (Source)

QQ less and pay attention more, please.

I even love it more when people DON'T read the beta forums and listen to what the beta testers are talking about the class and how much they hate fire and frost trees. The "changes" were just flipflops and a slight mana burn to a crappy 51 pt talent. Please get you QQ give out cards straight before you post.

[Digitrevx]

I even love it more when people DON'T read the beta forums and listen to what the beta testers are talking about the class and how much they hate fire and frost trees. The "changes" were just flipflops and a slight mana burn to a crappy 51 pt talent. Please get you QQ give out cards straight before you post.

It's hypocritical to complain about others complaining and being selfish when your motive is buff your class for your own self centered reasons. Its also ironic If you actually had ever played their class you might realize that LoS is crippling to their mechanics and that’s why they are getting attention because it's time to address it. It could not be done in a patch so it was put off to a more appropriate time. And that time is now.

[Darkjounin]

x3 Xperience = x1.5 per mob? (you're in party with a friend so, it's 50%)

[Darv101]

It's hypocritical to complain about others complaining and being selfish when your motive is buff your class for your own self centered reasons. Its also ironic If you actually had ever played their class you might realize that LoS is crippling to their mechanics and that’s why they are getting attention because it's time to address it. It could not be done in a patch so it was put off to a more appropriate time. And that time is now.

You're right...it would be hard to be taken seriously when I've never played the game in easy mode.




-For the horde

[Digitrevx]

You're right...it would be hard to be taken seriously when I've never played the game in easy mode.
-For the horde

Hows it feel to be out dps'ed by a easy mode class.

[Ajaxthegreat]

Blizzard Blue post Quote: "The best solution is that Ferals bring something great to the raid. Imagine Mark of the Wild was as good as Blessing of Kings, but they didn't stack. Now a druid or a paladin is a great addition. Or imagine the health return from Imp LotP was at the level of Blood death knight or Shadow priest. Now bringing a Feral makes it noticably easier on the healers. These are just examples, not changes I'm announcing."

That makes my brain hurt. Mark of the Wild is already a mediocre buff that doesnt stack with the resistance auras/buffs, and a suggested solution is to make it better but not stack at all with the best buff available? How the hell does that make "a druid or a paladin a great addition" instead of making everyone playing those classes compete for ONE raid spot? Also, it is very curious to me that some classes abilities become raid-wide (i.e. paladin auras, totems) while some are still restricted by party (trueshot aura, LotP, moonkin aura).

I love it how almost every day I come on to read more blue posts in this very order:

Death Knight
Druid
Hunter
Warlock


LoL...its not like Blizzard is showing a little favoritism for at least communicating to those classes b/c of the mass QQ of greediness by those already OP classes. Giving hunters 2 new abilities for their line of sight issues? How about give all other classes jumper forms b/c they have problems walking through walls...give me a flipping break. I guess that's what you get in reward for QQ'ing when 75% of the hunter player base is under the age of 18. I'm not harassing, but that's quite ridiculous.

How about some consoling to mages? I don't play one as much, but damn, other than arcane, fire (MOSTLY) and frost got the Shaft of UBER Darkness...lol

Do you wear a helmet all day to protect your head when you walk into walls, or do you just accept that fact that you are as intelligent as a coffee table and suffer the effects as a result?

Death Knight: new class, people are still unsure of how to play them, obviously going to be balancing issues
Druid: as you fail to recognize, Balance and Feral are getting the vast majority of the responses. Clearly such OP specs are over-represented in PvP and PvE and need to be toned down. Oh wait...
Hunter: OP? Seriously? Every arena match consists of pillar humping, and no other class suffers nearly as much from it.
Warlock: Locks have had decreasing results in Arena for some time now, and the only PvE tree worth using is Destruction (it is fantastic, however).

Someone already pointed out that Blizzard is focusing on a few classes at a time. Mages received a poor 51pt talent in fire and frost, and the developers already stated they are unhappy with them and plan on changing them in the future when they focus more on mages and other classes.

[blahblahnameblah]

I even love it more when people DON'T read the beta forums and listen to what the beta testers are talking about the class and how much they hate fire and frost trees. The "changes" were just flipflops and a slight mana burn to a crappy 51 pt talent. Please get you QQ give out cards straight before you post.

First you QQ about mages not getting ANY attention.
You: "Waaaaaah! Them only talk DK, Druid, Hunter, Warlock"
Now you QQ that the attention you have gotten was not the attention you wanted.
You: "Waaaah! Them not make me OP as I deserve!!!"
Cry less.
Also: please, try to use reading comprehension in the first paragraph I quoted.
God you mages are such complete crybabies.
Go find your pacifier.

[omglazor]

WTB warrior changes... NOT goddamn PROT ! >_< Most blue posts I've read were about warrior tanking. *yawn*

On another note - screw druids! :P

[haeresis]

WTB warrior changes... NOT goddamn PROT ! >_< Most blue posts I've read were about warrior tanking. *yawn*

On another note - screw druids! :P

Being able to leap 25 yrds and do an aoe stun, and dual wielding 2hand weapons seemed like significant changes to me.



I'll leave out the mage comments..

[Soopr Serial]

Being able to leap 25 yrds and do an aoe stun, and dual wielding 2hand weapons seemed like significant changes to me.

They are significantly bad.

[Hirschi]

Hope he is kidding?
That is so not true!

"Before you used nearly every healing spell you had." What does that mean, "nearly"? All but one? Well lets see the present. I use LB stacking plus Reju for tanks; spread LB and Reju over the raid in group healer position and use regrowth with natures swiftness or swiftmend for targets that drop HP very fast. If 3 or more ppl in my group drop below 50% I use tranquility if i can leave my maintarget alone for 10 seconds. So the only heal I do not use is Healing Touch because it has a way too long cast time that only leads to overheal in raids and most importantly is unavailable in tree form. And I am not going to waste lots and lots of mana plus my aura by breaking tree form for that, regardless what stupid set-boni they implement on T6.
Looking at my webstats the split is: 50-60% lifebloom, 25-30% Rejuvenation, around 10% Swiftmend, 5-10% Regrowth, 1-2% Tranquility, 0% Healing Touch. So right now, I use all my healing spells but one -> "nearly every healing spell" except for one that did not make any sense throughout the whole time of BC.

And I cannot agree to "pigeon holes the Druid to spamming Lifebloom on the tanks"!
I am as often group healer as tank healer - sometimes a mix of both. But all the time I do massive target switching, almost every GCD. I would not call that "boring". Its rather stressfull. Especially compared to the healing roles of other classes. A Paladin spamming two different ranks of the same spell on the tank all the time. Or a shaman spamming chainheals on the tank all the time and by that automatically healing the other melees without ever switching targets. That might be considered boring. Well but it is not for shamans. They are busy laughing about other classes, because their webstats show over 90% use of the same spell on the same target and they get first place in healing meters for it (unless its an Encounter that gives CoD Priest an advantage).

I don't want to bash other healing classes by saying that. I just cannot imagine how this blue poster comes to such stupid conclusions that show very little understanding of how a good tree of life works in a raid (dont care for pvp - only talking about raiding here!) And this post is not a nerf-whine post! I am ok with toning LB a bit down (and seeing the first comparisons made between life and beta shows its only a few percent). I just think his reasoning is very poor for a class designer

I absolutely agree with you. druids healing is hardly boring. and to that "think of healing before tbc" i say think of stats pre bc. think of movement pre bc. think of special tasks during boss fights pre bc. lb has not to be nerfed.

edith: what to do during a malacrass fight w/o lb-ing every raidmember so far its possible with the global cd.

[omglazor]

Being able to leap 25 yrds and do an aoe stun, and dual wielding 2hand weapons seemed like significant changes to me.

I'll leave out the mage comments..

Fury, the alleged PvE spec... >_> even then there is speculation on whether it will be effective for PvE or not, although it seems I'll be going that route for PvP unless they really do something with Arms; bring a rogue or hunter with me for 50% debuff to healing effect.