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    WotLK Beta - Build 8788

    Updates
    Update 19:00 CET
    Official Patch Notes updated. Hunter and Paladin changes updated accordingly.

    Update 09:45 CET
    Blacksmithing - The 1H Epic Weapons have been massively boosted.

    Jewelcrafting - You can now buy jewelcrafting plans for Tokens in Dalaran, according to the latest Blizzcast you can get these tokens by running daily quests for your profession. Jewelcrafting Token Rewards (Small error fixed in the screenshot)

    Amphitheater of Anguish
    A new questline is available in Zul'drak, just like the Ring of Blood in Nagrand it lets you fight multiple opponents with your group and will probably provide a nice boost of XP.
    Rewards - Wodin's Second-Best Shanker, Chilly Slobberknocker, Crimson Cranium Crusher, Screw-Sprung Fixer-Upper, De-Raged Waraxe, Icier Barbed Spear





    Update 08:25 CET
    Blizzcon
    Mike Morhaime, Blizzard CEO, posted a statement about the sale of Blizzcon Tickets. 3000 More Tickets will be made available through a lottery in the upcoming days.

    Update 08:15 CET
    Dalaran - You can now find the leading members of the Kirin'Tor in Dalaran !


    New Map Feature - Dungeon Maps ?
    You can now select floors on the map interface, this might be used for Dungeon Maps in the future ? See the screenshot

    Class changes

    Update 06:15 CET

    Update 05:20 CET
    • Tailoring items - Shining Spellthread, Brilliant Spellthread, Azure Spellthread, Sapphire Spellthread
    • Tailoring spells (No item yet)
      Master's Spellthread - Permanently embroiders your pants with master's spellthread, increasing spell power by 50 and Stamina by 30. Only the tailor's pants can be embroidered, and doing so will cause them to become soulbound.
      Sanctified Spellthread - Permanently embroiders your pants with sanctified spellthread, increasing spell power by 50 and Spirit by 20. Only the tailor's pants can be embroidered, and doing so will cause them to become soulbound.

    Update 05:15 CET

    Build 8788 Talent Calculator
    The Talent Calculator has been updated to the latest version.



    Build 8788 Updated Skill and Talent Lists
    Skills and talents for all classes have been updated. It looks like most of the spell costs have been changed to % of base mana, mostly to prevent spamming of low ranks.

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    Class changes

    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    Death Knight (Skills List / Talent Calc. (8788))
    Blood
    • Bloodworms (Tier 7) now gives you a 4/8/12% chance on hit to spawn 2-4 Bloodworms. (Previously was 20/40/60% chance on Death Strike to spawn 1/1-3/3-5 Bloodworms)
    • Sudden Doom (Tier 8 ) lasts 15 sec now. (Previously 10)

    Frost
    • Improved Icy Touch (Tier 1) changed to make your Frost Fever reduce melee, ranged and casting speed by an additional 2%. (Previously was 1%)
    • Icy Talons (Tier 3) changed to affect targets afflicted by Frost Fever. (Previously affected targets afflicted by Icy Touch only)
    • Lichborne (Tier 3) reduced to 10 sec. (Previously was 30 sec)
    • Runic Power Mastery (Tier 4) Scaling runic power abilities behave as if you had an additional 20% runic power. (Previously was 2%)
    • Frigid Deathplate (Tier 5) changed to: Enemies who hit you in melee have a 30/60/100% chance to become unsettled, decreasing their chance to hit for 5% for the next 12 sec.
    • Aneurysm (Tier 7) Removed
    • Endless Winter (Tier 7) is now a 2 point talent and Your Chains of Ice has a 50/100% chance to cause Frost Fever and the cost of your Mind Freeze is reduced to 20/0 runic power.
    • Acclimation (Tier 9) now affects the whole raid.

    Unholy
    • Virulence (Tier 2) and Morbidity (Tier 1) have swapped spots in the talent tree.
    • Blood-Caked Blade (Tier 4) reduced to 50% weapon damage times the number of your diseases on the target. (Previously was 60%)
    • Desecration (Tier 7) increased to 7 yards around the target. (Previously was 2 yards)
    • Night of the Dead (Tier 8 ) reduces the cooldown of Army of the Dead by 30 sec now. (Previously 1 min)
    • Scourge Strike (Tier 9) damage slightly increased.

    Druid (Skills List / Talent Calc. (8788))
    Feral
    • Savage Roar now increases attack power by 35% instead of 25%.

    Hunter (Skills List / Talent Calc. (8788))
    • Animal Handler (Beast Mastery): No longer increases speed while mounted, but now reduces the cooldown of your Master's Call ability by 5/10 sec. (Source)
    • Beastial Swiftness is now a pet talent tree talent, and has been removed from the Beast Mastery Hunter tree. (Source)
    • New Talent - Aspect Mastery (Beast Mastery) (Source)
    • Spirit Bond (Beast Mastery): Also increases healing done to you and your pet by 5/10%. (Source)
    • Pathfinding (Beast Mastery): Now also increases the movement speed while mounted by 5/10%. (Source)
    No other changes than the mana cost modifications on most of the skills. Please check the skills list for the respective cost of each skill / rank.

    Mage (Skills List / Talent Calc. (8788))
    Arcane
    • Torment the Weak (Tier 4) increases all damage caused to ensnared targets by 2/4/6%. (Previously worked only on slowed targets)

    Frost
    • Fingers of Frost (Tier 8 ) now treats all Frost spells cast on the target as if they were frozen, however the duration has been changed to 4 seconds. (Previously duration was 10 seconds, and only worked on the first 2 frost spells)

    Paladin (Skills List / Talent Calc. (8788))
    • Stoicism (Protection) moved to tier 2, now reduces duration of Stun effects by 10/20/30% and reduces chance your spells will be resisted by 10/20/30%. (Source)
    No other changes than the mana cost modifications on most of the skills. Please check the skills list for the respective cost of each skill / rank.

    Priest (Skills List / Talent Calc. (8788))
    No other changes than the mana cost modifications on most of the skills. Please check the skills list for the respective cost of each skill / rank.

    Rogue (Skills List / Talent Calc. (8788))
    No other changes than the mana cost modifications on most of the skills. Please check the skills list for the respective cost of each skill / rank.

    Shaman (Skills List / Talent Calc. (8788))
    No other changes than the mana cost modifications on most of the skills. Please check the skills list for the respective cost of each skill / rank.

    Warlock (Skills List / Talent Calc. (8788))
    Affliction
    • Improved Felhunter (Tier 6) changed so that your Felhunter gains mana equal to 100/200% of the damage done by it's Shadow Bite ability. (Previously 50/100%)
    • Dark Pact (Tier 7) returns 200% of your pet's drained mana. (Previously 100%)
    • Haunt (Tier 11) increases all damage done by DoT's by 20% while the target is afflicted with Haunt.

    Destruction
    • Fire and Brimstone (Tier 10) has been changed to NYI (Not Yet Implemented)

    Warrior (Skills List / Talent Calc. (8788))
    No other changes than the mana cost modifications on most of the skills. Please check the skills list for the respective cost of each skill / rank.

    Changes to mana cost
    Originally Posted by Zarhym (Blue Tracker)
    This is not a bug.

    In the latest WotLK beta push, we made a large change to the mana cost of spells. All player spells now cost a percentage of base mana rather than a fixed cost. Base mana is a special value determined by the player’s level and class, regardless of any effects or items that increase intellect. It is the size of a player’s mana pool if the player has zero intellect.

    This change was made primarily to prevent downranking, as it's a technique that was never quite intended. Rather than continue to find ways to penalize players for casting low-rank spells, we decided to essentially make doing so obsolete. If rank 5 and rank 6 of a spell cost the same amount of mana, but rank 6 does more damage/healing, then there is no reason to consider casting rank 5.

    So, each spell line (eg. Frostbolt, Shadowbolt, Greater Heal, Rejuvenation, etc.) has a fixed percentage of base mana that it costs for most of its ranks. That means each time a player gains a level the cost will go up some. The percentages were picked to attempt to keep the costs relatively similar to what they are currently in World of Warcraft. For most spells, that percentage will drop some when the player receives their highest-rank spell in existing Burning Crusade content. This was done to better fit the existing cost curve, and to keep the mana cost for level 70 players as close as possible to existing costs. Level 70 characters will see most of their maximum rank spells change in cost slightly up or down, but not by significant amounts.

    We anticipate there being some balance concerns due to this change, and our development staff will be ready to implement new spells, abilities, or talents to resolve those issues as the testing process continues.

  2. #2

    Re: WotLK Beta - Build 8788

    say goodbye to downranking forever.

  3. #3

    Re: WotLK Beta - Build 8788

    Quote Originally Posted by pagaen
    say goodbye to downranking forever.
    This is a good thing imo. They should make all spells ingame to take over previous rank just like warrior and rogue abilities. Less crowded spellbook and more faire games.
    I am indestructible.

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  4. #4

    Re: WotLK Beta - Build 8788

    Savage Roar up 10% to 35% now.

  5. #5

    Re: WotLK Beta - Build 8788

    Maybe ill downrank my new mind sear!!! only 67% of base mana... Wotlk gear better have some serious INT on them ^^

  6. #6

    Re: WotLK Beta - Build 8788

    Death Knight Changes:

    Anti-Magic Shell now cost 20 RP and lasts 5 sec
    Lichbourne cooldown reduced to one minute
    Bloodworms have 4%/8%/12% chance to proc from weapon hit, always 2-4 worms
    Aneurysm removed
    Endless Winter moved to Aneurysm's position, now requires Chillblains, now gives Chains of Ice 50%/100% chance to cause Frost Fever and reduce RP cost of Mind Freeze by 10/20 (I'm guessing the first rank is a typo, as base cost of Mind Freeze is 20 RP)

    That's all I see for now.

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  8. #8

    Re: WotLK Beta - Build 8788

    most spells changed to % of mana? cooool.. why bother with int now then.. just have 100 mana and cast spells for 2 or 3 mana! looks fun.

  9. #9

    Re: WotLK Beta - Build 8788

    Quote Originally Posted by Dahur
    most spells changed to % of mana? cooool.. why bother with int now then.. just have 100 mana and cast spells for 2 or 3 mana! looks fun.
    Base mana my friend, base mana.

  10. #10

    Re: WotLK Beta - Build 8788

    Quote Originally Posted by Dahur
    most spells changed to % of mana? cooool.. why bother with int now then.. just have 100 mana and cast spells for 2 or 3 mana! looks fun.
    base mana - your unbuffed naked mana pool.

    FAIL at that - I've been getting along in raids and PvP (when ~oom) on a rank 5 FoL, guess can't do it no more

  11. #11

    Re: WotLK Beta - Build 8788

    Deathknight Changes:

    Blood
    Bloodworms: Your weapon hits have a 4/8/12% chance to spawn 2-4 Bloodworms. Bloodworms attack your enemies, healing you as they do damage for 20 sec or until killed. (Healing amount remains the same)

    Frost
    Frigid Dreadplate: Enemies who hit you in melee have a 30/60/100% chance to become unsettled, decreaseing their chance to hit for 5% for the next 12 seconds. (was reduced attack speed)
    Chillblains: Increased to 10 seconds up from 6 seconds.
    Lichborne: Cooldown reduced to 1 minute (was 5 minutes). Duration reduced to 10 seconds (was 30 seconds).
    Aneurysm removed.
    NEW TALENT: Endless Winter - Your chains of Ice has a 50/100% chance to cause Frost Fever and the cost of Mind Freeze is reduced to 20/0 runic power. (which has to be a bug since untalented its 20 runic power)
    Chains of ice: Cooldown removed (LOL suck it druids!). Still takes 1 frost rune.

    Unholy
    Morbidity moved to Tier 1 in unholy
    Virulence moved to Tier 2 in unholy
    Blood-Caked Blade: Your autoattacks have a 5/10/15% chance to cause Blood-Caked Strike, which hits for 50% weapon damage times the number of your diseases on the target. (Was 60%)
    Night of the Dead: Hitting a target with Plague Strike or Scourge Strike reduces the cooldown of your next Raise Dead and your next Army of the Dead by 30 sec / 1 min. This effect stacks up to 5 times. (was bugged to be 1 min for both ranks)
    Anti-Magic Shell changed from 1 Unholy rune to 20 Runic Power.

  12. #12

    Re: WotLK Beta - Build 8788

    This patch also fixed the Titanium Belt Buckle it is now functioning properly. See my screenshot http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n...BeltSocket.jpg
    @EldacarJS - Warcraft PVP Enthusiast, Theorycrafter, and Blizzard PVP Forum MVP

  13. #13

    Re: WotLK Beta - Build 8788

    The changes to base mana won't really affect people who DON'T downrank their spells. What it'll do is make it so a lower-ranked spell costs the same mana to cast as a full-ranked one, without making it prohibitively expensive at the level when you get it. On the other hand, it evens out some of the racial imbalances, since not all races have the same base intellect. Although I doubt people use base stats as a reason to pick races, and I hope that the gnome's 10% int buff doesn't mean everything costs 10% more.

    Edit: added the DON'T. I'm tired.

  14. #14

    Re: WotLK Beta - Build 8788

    I'm confused...how is Master's Spellthread different from Sapphire Spellthread and Sanctified Spellthread different from Brilliant Spellthread?

  15. #15

    Re: WotLK Beta - Build 8788

    Propably one silver cheaper mats or something really useful ^^

  16. #16

    Re: WotLK Beta - Build 8788

    Quote Originally Posted by Gobi
    I'm confused...how is Master's Spellthread different from Sapphire Spellthread and Sanctified Spellthread different from Brilliant Spellthread?
    Sanctified and Master's are Tailor only. Seems sapphire and Brilliant are for anyone (like the current spellthreads).

  17. #17

    Re: WotLK Beta - Build 8788

    yeah but stats are same on those

  18. #18

    Re: WotLK Beta - Build 8788

    Rhonin is now in Dolaran


  19. #19

    Re: WotLK Beta - Build 8788

    Hmm, having done the math this is even more of a brutal change to healers than I first anticipated. With a base mana of 4098, that makes Holy Light 11 now cost 1188 mana instead of 840. Couple that with the fact all downranking is gone and that it a fairly crushing nerf.

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    Re: WotLK Beta - Build 8788

    its a nerf.. but bliz is making you take that shaman/druid for those massive group buffs' which will still be better

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