Class specific raid buffs...mostly fel intelligence and arcane intellect.

[Malathos]

So, if they decide to go through with the whole "All spells will cost a % of base mana instead of a set mana cost, what are mages to do with a usless buff, also locks with their felhunters having a new buff fel intelligence, (3% more int and 3% more spirit party and raid wide) at all? With spells costing a %age of base mana it wont matter if you have 100 mana or 100,000.

So i say if you're going to make spells cost %age of base mana, then make intellect do more than just more mana and crit, perhaps change the scaling a little bit to make it count for more, or possibly make it add to spell hit or mana regen, like spirit but not near as much. I've seen a lot of gear from Wotlk, and much of it has a lot of intellect. Why? Add spell crit instead or something.

Disclaimer: I realize that the %age of base mana thing may not go through, and nothing is set in stone until the day that i install it (the full version) on my pc, but for the sake that I know gm's and devs read this stuff, discuss. Opinions, comments, questions, fire away.

[Rusiak]

Base mana is NOT your total mana.

Base mana is the mana you would have if you had zero intellect.

Its somewhere between 2000-3000 depending on class.

[Malathos]

Well, that makes a lot more sense... FACEPALM! (damn)

[darkenrahl]

this is fail-tastic :P

[Celia]

You aren't understanding % of base mana. As a warlock, I'll give you an example you will recognize. Fear (all ranks) are 12% of base mana, which is 313 mana. Base mana is naked and specced 0/0/0. All three ranks of fear are 313 mana at level 70, regardless of what buffs or equipment you may or may not have.

EDIT: I'm way too slow. I think my example was a good one though, so I'll leave it be.

[shakeme]

there has been huge posts on multiple websites and hundreds of comments explaining what base mana is. I really wish people would catch on, this isnt even a new game mechanic. its been around for at least a year, if not longer.

[Malathos]

I see the error of my ways, and in the future will research all the info before I post. Honestly though the first person explaining the concept of base mana was enough, and if you want to get into reading a bit more, then you would probably realize i got the point 3 posts ago. I apologize.

[MortuariusBC]

So, if they decide to go through with the whole "All spells will cost a % of base mana instead of a set mana cost, what are mages to do with a usless buff, also locks with their felhunters having a new buff fel intelligence, (3% more int and 3% more spirit party and raid wide) at all? With spells costing a %age of base mana it wont matter if you have 100 mana or 100,000.

So i say if you're going to make spells cost %age of base mana, then make intellect do more than just more mana and crit, perhaps change the scaling a little bit to make it count for more, or possibly make it add to spell hit or mana regen, like spirit but not near as much. I've seen a lot of gear from Wotlk, and much of it has a lot of intellect. Why? Add spell crit instead or something.

Disclaimer: I realize that the %age of base mana thing may not go through, and nothing is set in stone until the day that i install it (the full version) on my pc, but for the sake that I know gm's and devs read this stuff, discuss. Opinions, comments, questions, fire away.

Ill save the flaming since you obviously have a good sense of humor about your unfortunate lack of knowledge

[darkenrahl]

I see the error of my ways, and in the future will research all the info before I post. Honestly though the first person explaining the concept of base mana was enough, and if you want to get into reading a bit more, then you would probably realize i got the point 3 posts ago. I apologize.

naa no worries :P
forums are for flaming and get flamed..
today you were the target, tomorrow it may be me, as soon as wotlk is releaed it will be kalgan :P

[Deleted]

Not if I have a say in it... Gotta love forum mentality nowadays...