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[Sarevokcz]

No he is not.
He is wrong.

care to elaborate?

he simply stated, that without mana, he wont be able to use spells that foten withut proper manaregen, thats it, u just saw words "%base" "mana" and "oom" and maed onclusion prolly

[Metaslave]

Why do the warlock sets still have so much stamina?

I thought Blizzard said weeks ago they don't want locks to be cloth tanks anymore, so giving them less stamina but more defense: the teleport thing.

They got the teleport but still the high stamina...

because we still lifetap perhaps. remember that lifetap nerf that got pulled earlier? it will be coming in wotlk blizz has said. but that would make more stamina kinda useless again so I dont know...

[Bonkbonk100]

Woah... 1200 AP on Windfury...

Things are looking a slighty bit better on the enhancement shaman, but I still see myself as an underdog in PvP.

[sloanesky]

Woah... 1200 AP on Windfury...

Things are looking a slighty bit better on the enhancement shaman, but I still see myself as an underdog in PvP.

where did you read this? I cant find a new rank of windfury anywhere

[stupid11]

I dont understand. Waste a glyph spot? Are there only a certain number of glyphs you can apply to your abilities?

yes, 3 major glyphs, 3 minor, 3 cosmetic.

[Bonkbonk100]

5G that the shaman set is not a placeholder!

where did you read this? I cant find a new rank of windfury anywhere

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=58804

It is listed as a level 68 spell, hence you might have had trouble finding it ( took me some time before I noticed )

[stupid11]

Now either this is a typo or Blizz is stupider than I thought. Two enchants with the same kind of stats but one is better?

I assume it's supposed to be attack power on the 45 one.

On the subject on inscription, fel armor mana reduction, increase duration blessing of kings on self. I mean whats the point?

They are prep spells.

If they are done outside combat if I already have enough mana to buff the full raid without drinking I don't care how much mana they cost.
If they last 10 minutes or more especially if the buff only effects me, I don't care how long they last.

Am I missing something here?

remember that there are different levels of glyphs. Those might just be cosmetic glyphs or whatever, and not available in the same slots as the good ones.

[cyborg23]

yes, 3 major glyphs, 3 minor, 3 cosmetic.

uh, minor=cosmetic

[Tservo]

No he is not.
He is wrong.
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The term "Base Mana" refers to how much mana your character has before it is modified by Talents, Intellect, Enchants and other item effects.
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that was taken directly from WoWwiki, so as i said before. Ret Pallies have a pretty tiny base mana pool, and the fact that we have no talents that affect our base mana and the new gear has no int on it, our mana pools are tiny smaller even than they are now. so you obviously don't understand base mana

[Tigercat]

The point, you morons, is that you will have more than just your base mana even if you're wearing zero gear, with no talent points spent.

You gain some +mana every time you level, this is your base mana. You also often gain +intellect when you level, which is not counted into the base mana.

Not a huge difference, but these people saying "omg we're just gonna hav base mana" are simply ignorant.

[nemesisevil]

They are releasing them soon for sure. And they have been keeping the same "problems" in the Prot Tree for about 6-7 patches, so... what do you want me to think? Also, the blues keep saying things like "Hey! we're going to fix you guys! Soon! Yeah... soon... really!" and when changes come they are handy (some) but not as what a good number of tanks were expecting.

I have been losing my faith in all those patches... and while they try to fix something, they break something else. :\

It's the same with every class so who the. cares. According to forum posters everything will break, every single god damn small change, in TBC it was the same and now it is. There is no problem. We won't be broken.

[lethaldonut]

Well don't try and justify imp sunder, it's just not good unless you're arms/fury tanking. Even so, in wrath all wars have shield slam so who needs sunder?

Devestate applies the sunder effect as stated in the tooltip. My guess would be that it would still apply to that sunder armor. They just say Sunder Armor as opposed to Devestate so non prot tanks can use it too.

[Saberoy]

Well there's a glyph of devastate and a glyph of sunder, so my thinking and the thinking of most people that glyph of sunder only applies to the skill sunder armor.

[lethaldonut]

It could go either way, I just don't think they would make a tanking glyph that uses an obsolete ability for a Protection Warrior.