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  1. #21

    Re: obsolete talents for ret pvp

    Quote Originally Posted by Lilliana
    they could atleat increase the base% to hit so it isnt completely SoCasino
    Amen to that.

  2. #22

    Re: obsolete talents for ret pvp

    the glyph is going to help but i really dont think it is going to cut it

  3. #23

    Re: obsolete talents for ret pvp

    Too bad no one in their right mind will get that Glyph lol. There is lots of other choices.

  4. #24

    Re: obsolete talents for ret pvp

    Well i might get it and see if i notice anything else

  5. #25

    Re: obsolete talents for ret pvp

    At least we are getting Seal of Blood! AMIRITE!?
    I am the interglow that lets you know to call your brother son.


  6. #26

    Re: obsolete talents for ret pvp

    Quote Originally Posted by Vertego
    At least we are getting Seal of Blood! AMIRITE!?
    I'm actually currently play a Blood Elf...  :P

    And to think, we get Vengeance once it's actually good.  :-X

  7. #27
    yiptastic
    Guest

    Re: obsolete talents for ret pvp

    what's the SoC damage now?


  8. #28

    Re: obsolete talents for ret pvp

    i'm not sure if you meant i didn't read the notes, but before the nerf, on a stunned target it was 2500 noncrit, after it was 1500. i did the math both times

    I felt like putting a bullet between the eyes of every Panda that wouldn't screw to save its species
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&n=Sinders

  9. #29
    yiptastic
    Guest

    Re: obsolete talents for ret pvp

    Quote Originally Posted by Mysmere
    i'm not sure if you meant i didn't read the notes, but before the nerf, on a stunned target it was 2500 noncrit, after it was 1500. i did the math both times
    fair change. but dunno. I read the notes and it said rank 3 SoC damage is reduced.

    so, does that mean they reduced the damage from 70% of weapon damage to something lower?

    judgement damage needs to tune down anyway. We are gonna be critting judgement like nuts. 2500 non-crit means we will be critting for 6k judgement... man. now with 1500 non crit, we will be critting for 3.6k. Not bad.

  10. #30

    Re: obsolete talents for ret pvp

    no, soco still hits for 70% base weapon, the judge damage went down considerably

    after all, 5k crits at 70 are a little op

    I felt like putting a bullet between the eyes of every Panda that wouldn't screw to save its species
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&n=Sinders

  11. #31

    Re: obsolete talents for ret pvp

    Quote Originally Posted by Mysmere
    i'm not quite sure where you got 45, its 25 of base on a crit. implying 12.5% extra damage on a crit. thats all

    because its 25% extra on the 100% damage bonus of a crit. not on the base.

    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...00000000000000

    assume base crit is already 34%
    I'm not completely sure that you need 3 points in JotW - replenishment doesn't seem to be that good in pvp, whereas 20% total mana back you get for 1 point in JotW

  12. #32

    Re: obsolete talents for ret pvp

    from what i can tell it the 20% mana will only proc 33/66/100% of the time, so i stuck 3 in. otherwise i wouldve put 2 in because pve buff lasts 15 seconds..only need 1/2 procs. besides, for arenas, healbots need the help, they really do

    I felt like putting a bullet between the eyes of every Panda that wouldn't screw to save its species
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&n=Sinders

  13. #33

    Re: obsolete talents for ret pvp

    Well, yep, depends how to read it. After some thinking... most probably you are right. We'll see.


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