Okay I normally don't start on a rampage on anything beta cause I know that the things will change... However the changes to Holy and Prot are ridiculous.
Divine Plea? 10 seconds of not main tank healing for a mana regen is almost suicide for a 5man or a 10man not alone 25mans where your needed on a main tank to help heal. That's not even usuable in its current form and I prolly won't even put it on my toolbar. the only one that would even have a good/decent chance to use this ability is a Ret Pally that needs mana after going through all their mana regen mechanics and if that's the case than I don't see how it fits blizz's idea of "mana management" that they are working so hard to get across.
Kings... Okay I hate to say it but who the hell is going to even spec this? Why would a Holy Pally want it when they could get 5% crit from Conviction, Prot and Ret Pallies will get str so it's a 5 point wasted talent... This NEEDS to be baseline if your going to do anything with it.
All I have to say is Ret yes you did get a good deal of changes and whatnot, and is the hype of the Expac but c'mon wheres the love for maybe two of the other talent trees? I mean Beacon is NOT OP, i mean look at Mark of Divinity its generaly no different and we have NO AoE heal? We are the only class without a single vibe of AoE heal?
Now in the Prot tree Redoubt? WHY? The only buff I see is the added block to Ranged attacks. I don't get the point in moving it down other than another PvP nerft to Holy Prot Healadins.
Any other concerns on the other two talent trees and thier needs?