Who will get Kings?

[postmortum]

No more salv in beta... at least not in blessing form

[Retrogames]

Sure providing blessings is a part of being a Paladin, but since it's so easily available I would actually expect Ret/Holy to take it, besides I usually bless everyone with salvation since most people can't seem to control their aggro.

As Postmortum pointed out, Salvation is gone. So is Light. That leaves you with Might (+AP), Wisdom (+Mana Regen), and Sanctuary (-Damage, +energy, only if you're prot)...

Let's be honest; the versatility we Paladins had back in the day has been whittled down to "Caster Buff" and "Melee Buff" as baseline, and "Tank Buff" if you go Protection. Kings was there for cases where AP or mana Regen were undesirable, or most notably, for when multiple paladins were present.

I'd rather see Kings removed completely than have this odd version floating around. Players will expect all Paladins to have it given it's position, and that simply will not be the case. I still think my example was the best (can view it in my Signature)

[gobtol]

This is exactly what they did to Rogues with Relentless Strikes. They took a one point talent, turned it into a 5 point talent, and called it more accessible.

[Kavalir]

Protadin wont take it, other spec who were spending 11 pts to get it now gonna be glad to take it only for 5 pts.

yeah except all the holy pallys are gonna look at it, and say wtf should i bother when i can get 3% spell crit by going into the 4th tier of the ret tree. Sadly this new talent build is gonna spell the end of most holy / prot healing builds....just not worth it anymore.
I personally loved the old redoubt as a healer, made my solo farming and questing so much easier on me.

[Montoya]

Hmmm... Kings vs +25% to BoM.

5 TP's vs 2.

I'd rather go with the Imp BoM, but that's just me.

From a ret paladins perspective at least.

[Yvert]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...00000000000000

My ret pve build since i don't pvp at all. Not sure if anyone else posted this one but i was too lazy to read through the pages.