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  1. #21

    Re: Who will get Kings?

    I'd still like to know if you can pick up just 1 point in BoK (with +2% to stats) and still get Greater BoK (with +10% to stats). The skills page on MMO still lists the 10% to Greater BoK with the new 5 point BoK Talent. Can anyone in the beta give some news on this?

  2. #22

    Re: Who will get Kings?

    The problem with Ret Pally is that they still need 10 Points in Prot. 5 for Kings and 5 for Divine Strenght.

    I rather take the 11 points with stoicim and Guardians Favor.

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    Re: Who will get Kings?

    Quote Originally Posted by Retrogames
    Part of being a Paladin is blessing your allies; just because we'll never use BoK on ourselves due to the awesome changes to BoSanc doesn't mean we won't be expected to provide BoK to other players. While this might not be a problem in 10 and 25-man raids, it will be in 5-mans.
    Sure providing blessings is a part of being a Paladin, but since it's so easily available I would actually expect Ret/Holy to take it, besides I usually bless everyone with salvation since most people can't seem to control their aggro.

    Quote Originally Posted by FROMtheASHES777
    I'd still like to know if you can pick up just 1 point in BoK (with +2% to stats) and still get Greater BoK (with +10% to stats). The skills page on MMO still lists the 10% to Greater BoK with the new 5 point BoK Talent. Can anyone in the beta give some news on this?
    Why would you!

    Greater Blessings are just group ones of your existing blessings.

  4. #24

    Re: Who will get Kings?

    No more salv in beta... at least not in blessing form

  5. #25

    Re: Who will get Kings?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maklor
    Sure providing blessings is a part of being a Paladin, but since it's so easily available I would actually expect Ret/Holy to take it, besides I usually bless everyone with salvation since most people can't seem to control their aggro.
    As Postmortum pointed out, Salvation is gone. So is Light. That leaves you with Might (+AP), Wisdom (+Mana Regen), and Sanctuary (-Damage, +energy, only if you're prot)...

    Let's be honest; the versatility we Paladins had back in the day has been whittled down to "Caster Buff" and "Melee Buff" as baseline, and "Tank Buff" if you go Protection. Kings was there for cases where AP or mana Regen were undesirable, or most notably, for when multiple paladins were present.

    I'd rather see Kings removed completely than have this odd version floating around. Players will expect all Paladins to have it given it's position, and that simply will not be the case. I still think my example was the best (can view it in my Signature)
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  6. #26

    Re: Who will get Kings?

    This is exactly what they did to Rogues with Relentless Strikes. They took a one point talent, turned it into a 5 point talent, and called it more accessible.
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    Re: Who will get Kings?

    Quote Originally Posted by Retrogames
    As Postmortum pointed out, Salvation is gone. So is Light. That leaves you with Might (+AP), Wisdom (+Mana Regen), and Sanctuary (-Damage, +energy, only if you're prot)...
    I know that it's gone it was more of a frustration point I made, as I understand it threath will be less of an issue now.

    So Might for non casters and Wisdom for casters.. I'm not getting BoK no matter what

  8. #28

    Re: Who will get Kings?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wildhorn
    Protadin wont take it, other spec who were spending 11 pts to get it now gonna be glad to take it only for 5 pts.
    yeah except all the holy pallys are gonna look at it, and say wtf should i bother when i can get 3% spell crit by going into the 4th tier of the ret tree. Sadly this new talent build is gonna spell the end of most holy / prot healing builds....just not worth it anymore.
    I personally loved the old redoubt as a healer, made my solo farming and questing so much easier on me.
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  9. #29

    Re: Who will get Kings?

    Hmmm... Kings vs +25% to BoM.

    5 TP's vs 2.

    I'd rather go with the Imp BoM, but that's just me.

    From a ret paladins perspective at least.
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  10. #30

    Re: Who will get Kings?

    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...00000000000000

    My ret pve build since i don't pvp at all. Not sure if anyone else posted this one but i was too lazy to read through the pages.

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