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    BEFORE YELLING NERF

    Understand few facts:
    1. Atm Paladin retri gear have INT stat, skills are BASED MANA(on lvl 80 no INT stat, less healing, less dmg spamming)
    2. Seal/judgement now also benefit from atk power and from better weapon
    3. There is additional instant dmg which do aoe

    BUG ATM ON PTR/BETA:
    Divine storm is itended to do HOLY dmg BUT atm it does MEELE dmg which ALSO procs SEALS( very noticable when you use Seal of BLOOD)
    Atm on ptr this bug gives you BOOST around 20% more dmg then its itended.

    Edited:
    This is my little movie how this bug work on elite mobs in instances. Used Seal of Light instead of dps seals, so with Divine storm bug i got big healing boost through aoe dmg.

    http://vimeo.com/1740117

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    Re: BEFORE YELLING NERF

    I have no idea what this person was trying to say. Your English makes babies cry.

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    Re: BEFORE YELLING NERF

    Quote Originally Posted by Maneken
    Divine storm is itended to do HOLY dmg BUT atm it does MEELE dmg
    Crusader Strike?
    I like it that way, procs enchants too, and can't be silenced.

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    Re: BEFORE YELLING NERF

    My english is bad agree with that.
    Ill try to elaborate for you in simple mind way:
    Divine Storm Ability---> BUGGED---> INSTEAD HOLY DMG IT DOES MEELE DMG--->PROCS SEALS on MULTIPLE MOBS FIGHTS---> USE SEAL OF BLOOD---> ADITIONAL TARGETS HITTED BY DS ALSO GET HITTED BY SEAL OF BLOOD

    Divine storm is designed to do Holy dmg that way it CANT procs any seal.

    Is this still chineese for you or i need to draw you?

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    Re: BEFORE YELLING NERF

    Divine Storm is supposed to proc seals. That was always the intention.

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    Re: BEFORE YELLING NERF

    Quote Originally Posted by Stevet
    Crusader Strike?
    I like it that way, procs enchants too, and can't be silenced.
    Crusader strike can procs Seals(from current beta/ptr), its meele dmg and it works as meele dmg.

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    Re: BEFORE YELLING NERF

    Quote Originally Posted by Maneken
    My english is bad agree with that.

    blah blah all caps ranting...

    Is this still chineese for you or i need to draw you?
    Please.. draw me.

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    Re: BEFORE YELLING NERF

    Quote Originally Posted by Grenwalis
    Divine Storm is supposed to proc seals. That was always the intention.
    Holy dmg procsing Seals(which is again holy school), dont believe in that.
    Im conviced its bug.

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    Re: BEFORE YELLING NERF

    Read Basutai's post right above yours. He references the patch notes that state it is working as intended.

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    Re: BEFORE YELLING NERF

    Quote Originally Posted by Maneken
    Holy dmg procsing Seals(which is again holy school), dont believe in that.
    Im conviced its bug.

    "All Seals have been reduced to 1 rank and now cost 14% of base mana. The duration has been increased to 2 minutes and are no longer consumed when a Judgement spell is cast. The effects can be triggered from all weapon based special abilities."

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    Re: BEFORE YELLING NERF

    The only things i know about retri atm is they can burst anything down in 5 seconds flat, and they can also do around 20k's worht of damage on a clothies in the 12 seconds they are immune bubbleboys.

    Whatever the mechanics are that allow themto do this, just one simple fact remains.

    They are currently broke and need nerfing. ;D

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    Re: BEFORE YELLING NERF

    I aplogize, yes it was said in patch notes, didnt saw that.

    Then yes something is littlebit wrong, they need to work more on sustainable dps and tone down burst dmg.
    Also it needs to have rank 1 and rank 2, that way it will stay at it is on lvl 80 and lower output on lvl 70

  13. #13

    Re: BEFORE YELLING NERF

    nerf ret pala!!! totaly op!!!!!
    :'( buff wl!!! totaly not op!!!!!



  14. #14

    Re: BEFORE YELLING NERF

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog
    nerf ret pala!!! totaly op!!!!!
    :'( buff wl!!! totaly not op!!!!!


    Sometimes have same emotional waves like you

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    Re: BEFORE YELLING NERF

    NEEEEEEEEEEEEERFFFFFFFFFFF!










    Wait, what?

  16. #16

    Re: BEFORE YELLING NERF

    Quote Originally Posted by Maneken
    I aplogize, yes it was said in patch notes, didnt saw that.

    Then yes something is littlebit wrong, they need to work more on sustainable dps and tone down burst dmg.
    Also it needs to have rank 1 and rank 2, that way it will stay at it is on lvl 80 and lower output on lvl 70

    DPS on PTR's is very sustainable. My dps with divine storm maintains 1200-1400 self buffed.

    My dps on a target on live (self buffed) is about 1000dps

    You people are just bad.

    "zomg ret isn't a free hk anymore"
    "zomg how is this melee class melee'ing me"
    "zomg paladins kill ppl"
    "zomg how dare he kill me, i am me"


    Call the wahhmbulance. Ret has been an underpowered and disrespected spec since this games release. Heaven forbid we have our time to shine.

    They're taking away our utility in the xpac, so we got more dps. Makes sense right?

    QQ


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    Re: BEFORE YELLING NERF

    Quote Originally Posted by Adamson

    DPS on PTR's is very sustainable. My dps with divine storm maintains 1200-1400 self buffed.

    My dps on a target on live (self buffed) is about 1000dps

    You people are just bad.

    "zomg ret isn't a free hk anymore"
    "zomg how is this melee class melee'ing me"
    "zomg paladins kill ppl"
    "zomg how dare he kill me, i am me"


    Call the wahhmbulance. Ret has been an underpowered and disrespected spec since this games release. Heaven forbid we have our time to shine.

    They're taking away our utility in the xpac, so we got more dps. Makes sense right?

    QQ

    We are on same side, im for solving paladins role/utility in pvp and pve.
    But atm we have very good dps, in some situation spiky dmg.
    In other hand we dont have any new cc, anti-cc or some kind of charge/pull.

    Mine sustainable dps on Target dumies after some 8 min atacking was 1700 dps selfbuffed.
    On live server in raid i cant have more then 1400 dps, so its big boost.
    Im NOT for nerfing im for solving problems, we were nerfed for along times and we had too much failed revamps.

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    Re: BEFORE YELLING NERF



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    Re: BEFORE YELLING NERF

    Quote Originally Posted by Maneken
    We are on same side, im for solving paladins role/utility in pvp and pve.
    But atm we have very good dps, in some situation spiky dmg.
    In other hand we dont have any new cc, anti-cc or some kind of charge/pull.

    Mine sustainable dps on Target dumies after some 8 min atacking was 1700 dps selfbuffed.
    On live server in raid i cant have more then 1400 dps, so its big boost.
    Im NOT for nerfing im for solving problems, we were nerfed for along times and we had too much failed revamps.
    The point of these changes in beta and the PTR is to increase our damage. We are below where they (being Blizzard) wants to be. By increasing our damage they are balancing all dps Specs to be with the same range of damage. Complaining about this is counter-productive to what we need.

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    Re: BEFORE YELLING NERF

    The only way i see that happening is to loose burst damage and get lots of DoT instead.
    >:7

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