Malygos 25 Update, Shaman / Druid changes, Blue posts

[Nemacol]

When they say duel-spec.. what do they mean? like hybrid (like 11/11/39) or do they mean 2 different specs that can be changed out without paying for a respec?


sorry to be a nub


thanks
-Nem

[rimmer]

@ Nemacol

we dont truely know yet, its something to do with having 2 talent specs set and changing between them (i.e. on my priest i can have a shadow and a holy spec set) but we dont know how we change, how often we can change, how much it will cost etc.

I'm guessing big fat chunk of gold to set up a second talent spec, and same cost as respeccing to swap specs, but less painful as dont have to put in each talent point.

[Nemacol]

Alright, thanks.
If there is a huge upfront cost I would like the cost to switch to be very little and make it so you have to be in a resting zone (cities, inns, etc) to change.
I like this idea so far, one of my major issues with my restoration druid is that I am always lacking in DPS, thus dailies are almost not an option (unless I get some people to go with me). the switching cost being 100g.

Example being: exit raid, hearth out, switch to balance spec, do dailys, and /dance.

[Qrio]

how about a better graphic on riptide! It's gotta be the most un-impressive 51 point talent in terms of flashiness.

They already said that Riptide's graphic is not done/finished yet, and it will probably come at a later stage. It will get changed

[jkw]

Make a button in the talent window, "Create template". A window pops up, where you get to "name" your spec. Then you spec.
When you respec you first click "Create new template", name your spec, talents gets whiped, and you can make your second spec.

Make it 1hr cooldown.
Only possible to have 2 specs.
Not possible to swap spec in combat.
Not possible to swap spec in the arena.

Done.

[Shadowkaji]

@ Nemacol

we dont truely know yet, its something to do with having 2 talent specs set and changing between them (i.e. on my priest i can have a shadow and a holy spec set) but we dont know how we change, how often we can change, how much it will cost etc.

I'm guessing big fat chunk of gold to set up a second talent spec, and same cost as respeccing to swap specs, but less painful as dont have to put in each talent point.

yup and the last part bout a big fat chunk of gold...that will probably be our big money sink in Lich King like Epic training was our gold sink in BC

[Zainfear]

Wait so shadowflame is too hard to use because it's a cone?

What about dragons breath and Cone of cold?

The trick here is that Shadowflame has a LOT smaller cone than either of the spells you mentioned.
So what they're probably going to do is to bring the cone radius to CoC/Dragonsbreath level and buff (restore, really) the rather large initial damage while reducing the damager-over-time effect.

[powercleans]

Make it 1hr cooldown.
Only possible to have 2 specs.
Not possible to swap spec in combat.
Not possible to swap spec in the arena.

Done.

This is what I am expecting.

However... the gold sink part. That would suck. I was excited for shamans, druids, pallies to be able to switch things up... maybe it was naive on my part, but I didn't think every class would get duel specs. [Its easy enough to think of examples of how/why each class would want to change... but healer/no-dps wins] I got the impression blizz was doing this FOR THE HYBRIDS in the game... not just willy nilly.

O well, we shall see.

[Panoramixe]

I actually thought of raiders who also liked pvp instead of hybrids at first, it will be great for both tbh.

[Kelfarr]

yup and the last part bout a big fat chunk of gold...that will probably be our big money sink in Lich King like Epic training was our gold sink in BC

I am pretty sure our gold sink is the 20,000g mammoth :

[Cocoa]

Make a button in the talent window, "Create template". A window pops up, where you get to "name" your spec. Then you spec.
When you respec you first click "Create new template", name your spec, talents gets whiped, and you can make your second spec.

Make it 1hr cooldown.
Only possible to have 2 specs.
Not possible to swap spec in combat.
Not possible to swap spec in the arena.

Done.

almost like this : http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-a.../talented.aspx

[Amgyn]

pretty sure gold sink will be more than just mammoth's kelfarr... Cenarion mount was the first of said money sinks, followed by the Haris Pilton Junk (you get achievements for it!), followed by the staggering amount of Collect X amount of Y achievements (to be realsed with 3.0.2.

the BIGGEST gold and time sink imo will be getting those achievements asap... not to mention getting rep with certain factions via cloth/other turn-ins..... inscription while not huge, will still be a money sink.

ps: paying OTHER players is ~not~ a gold sink.

[Razulath]

Yay, 4 talentpoints to put in other places, finaly the bloat is under controll. Still you cant take all the talents at lvl 80, even if you spend them all in balance

[stupid11]

ps: paying OTHER players is ~not~ a gold sink.

Paying them for gear is, imo. Like spellstrike/belt of battle/etc.

[Eggrole]

But in our tests, Elemental is above the tanks and healers and on par with everyone who isn't broken.

that feelt like a /spit in the face :/ i meen, going from top 5 in raids to BT, for example, to just above tanks in wotlk...
ahh well, off to reroll to something more usefull then :/

[Verolish]

I don't think there will be a duel spec cool down.There will probably be a large upfront cost and then just certain rules to follow to switch.I'm thinking 1 to 5k gold for the second slot and then not being able to switch in combat or in arena's.The reasoning for no cool down would be raids ,Trash you might need 2-4 tanks depending on other cc but then the boss you might only need 1 tank. so those other tanks could switch to pure dps and/or healing. So having the 60 min cd would not work in this type situation. Just my 2s

[delage35]

that feelt like a /spit in the face :/ i meen, going from top 5 in raids to BT, for example, to just above tanks in wotlk...
ahh well, off to reroll to something more usefull then :/

What part of "on par with every dps class that isn't broken" wasn't clear. Newsflash: when they get it where they want to be, topping dps meters will be because your rotation is tighter or you've got more of tier X gear than your buds, not because of your class choice. Play what you really *want* to play and stop teh qq already.

[Eggrole]

What part of "on par with every dps class that isn't broken" wasn't clear. Newsflash: when they get it where they want to be, topping dps meters will be because your rotation is tighter or you've got more of tier X gear than your buds, not because of your class choice. Play what you really *want* to play and stop teh qq already.

Ur missing the point mate, was mearly saying that "Elemental is above the tanks and healers" feelt like a spit in the face and that comparing us with dmg from a tank/healer feelt like a spit in the face!
Think someone needs to QQ less :/

[309blank]

^
| redundant sentence is redundant!

and no matter what you compare it with, the statement was clear and nothing like a spit in the face. i look forward to playing elemental!

on another note: i kinda hate it that when you're looking at other players you'll be like " hmmm is that a light blue or more purplish? looks blue, cool, he downed malygos.... ah nope, its purplish, good look clearing naxx10!"

seriously, they need to come up with a little more variety. just hoping that these are in fact just placeholders!

[stupid11]

Ur missing the point mate, was mearly saying that "Elemental is above the tanks and healers" feelt like a spit in the face and that comparing us with dmg from a tank/healer feelt like a spit in the face!
Think someone needs to QQ less :/

would you prefer it if he said you were below or equal to tanks and healers? Like it or not, EVERY SINGLE CLASS can be compared to tanks and healers in terms of DPS. The only varying factor is how much higher you are.

And he said you were on par with the other non-broken classes already, so stop QQing.