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    Hunter 3.0

    Hi, The 14th october we can use new talents, but i dont know, how to build the best PVE.
    I thought a similar build for MM

    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunt...10053105200251

    and this for BM

    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunt...00000000000000

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    Re: Hunter 3.0

    i was thinking of something like this for bm

    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunt...00000000000000

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    Re: Hunter 3.0

    why da heck u want exotic pets for?...

    if ur talking bout pve get a real pet...

    atm in BETA and PTR both cats and scorpids do way more DPS then devilsaurs... theres no reason to get exotic 51 talent crappy talent...

    1 point in go for the throat gives insane damage boost trought pet specials...
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    Re: Hunter 3.0

    Ok I thought that the devilaur is the best pet for dps...I wrong ;D

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    Re: Hunter 3.0

    4 extra skill points for pets is good enough for me

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    Re: Hunter 3.0

    i donno what u guys r doin with ur specs. my hunter has and always will remain a pvp char and i believe hands down that this is the best spec for a pvp bm hunter
    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunt...00000000000000
    that is the spec im going with at 80.

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    Re: Hunter 3.0

    For pvp exotic pet`s didin`t have that great abilitys, at least when you compare them to pets like hyenas or crabs.

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    Re: Hunter 3.0

    You shouldn't need animal handler anymore, our pets now get our +hit.

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    Re: Hunter 3.0

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkH
    Hi, The 14th october we can use new talents, but i dont know, how to build the best PVE.
    I thought a similar build for MM

    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunt...10053105200251

    and this for BM

    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunt...00000000000000

    Discussion
    3.0 is coming Oct. 14th? Any confirmation?
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    Re: Hunter 3.0

    There is no real confirmation, just a "really high chance"

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=18788.0

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    Re: Hunter 3.0

    This is what I'm using:

    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunt...10253105101351

    Then getting Careful Aim at 71, 72, 73, Imp AotH at 74-78, and Focused Fire at 79/80.
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    Re: Hunter 3.0

    @someoneelse
    The guy here is asking for a level 70 3.0 build, not a level 80 one

    @DarkH
    I would go for 2/2 GftT and stick to a non-exotic pet for now. Prob a cat. My build would prob look something like this.
    4/5 Frenzy is more then enough to let your pet frenzy almost 100%. Animal handler is prob worthless now pet hit scales with the hit from his master.

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    Re: Hunter 3.0

    Quote Originally Posted by xourico

    atm in BETA and PTR both cats and scorpids do way more DPS then devilsaurs... theres no reason to get exotic 51 talent crappy talent...
    there was a blue post stating kitty is getting nerfed, didnt know about scorpids but they have stated that if there is a dps difference they will if anything lean towards making the exotics the better ones.

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    Re: Hunter 3.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Locknload
    @someoneelse
    The guy here is asking for a level 70 3.0 build, not a level 80 one

    @DarkH
    I would go for 2/2 GftT and stick to a non-exotic pet for now. Prob a cat. My build would prob look something like this.
    4/5 Frenzy is more then enough to let your pet frenzy almost 100%. Animal handler is prob worthless now pet hit scales with the hit from his master.
    2/2 GftT is awesome, but I can't get the points for it >.<

    4/5 Frenzy is surely enough It is even now and our pets miss to much.

    Animal Handler stays as good as now, because 4% more hit = 4% more damage. And it STAYS 4% more damage, even after the patch. Hint: Pets aren't capped at 9% hitrating.

    http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=ctbMztxRwu0est0e

    This will be the build I am using, together with this cat-build:
    http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?petcalc=0Vbz0fc0szz

    As you can see, you 'need' those 4 extra points. Too bad it aren't 5 points =(
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    Re: Hunter 3.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Lavache
    Hint: Pets aren't capped at 9% hitrating.
    How do you figure? They don't dual-wield, so they're very much capped at 9% Hit. What Animal Handler REALLY needs to do is give Expertise to your pet so it isn't Parried/Dodged.
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    Re: Hunter 3.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Rilgon
    How do you figure? They don't dual-wield, so they're very much capped at 9% Hit. What Animal Handler REALLY needs to do is give Expertise to your pet so it isn't Parried/Dodged.
    WWS numbers from a raid (02/10/08)

    http://wowwebstats.com/t5ymnjcmxh2ou...00004&s=bosses

    As you can see the miss-chances for a cat are:

    Swing - 20%
    Claw - 14%
    Kill Command - 20%
    Bite - 10%

    And that is as a BM-hunter.
    So imo, take 2/2 Animal Handler and get 9% more dps

    Also a question to anybody who things he knows the answer:
    Does my pet benefit from the talent that gives 3% more hit?

    Now I have looked more into the numbers and I see that 3.6% was missed, 3.6% was parried and that 14% was dodged. But doesnt hit affect the dodge? I always thought it did.


    Even a better link from Teron Gorefiend (which is just a tank/spank fight if you don't get the ghost)

    http://wowwebstats.com/t5ymnjcmxh2ou...404a73b2000073

    I'll ignore Kill Command because he does it manually

    Claw: 6% miss, and 8% parried or dodged.

    I hate numbers, I do not get them >.< And I have to be honest that I do not really know how hit works and if it affects those parries and dodges.
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    Try to boil everything down to a negative catch phrase all you want. We're still going to spend countless hours making Warlords of Draenor the most epic expansion possible.

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    Re: Hunter 3.0

    Perplexing.

    Off to the beta forums to ask how the miss rate for pets is calculated, then.
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    Re: Hunter 3.0

    I don't know what will be hit rating to get, if it make any problems i would go with this specc http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunt...00000000000000

    If hit is not problem then http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunt...00000000000000

    but there is improved HM hmm dunno i will need to test it what dose more dmg but you get the point :P

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    Re: Hunter 3.0

    Quote Originally Posted by kokoloko
    I don't know what will be hit rating to get, if it make any problems i would go with this specc http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunt...00000000000000

    If hit is not problem then http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunt...00000000000000

    but there is improved HM hmm dunno i will need to test it what dose more dmg but you get the point :P
    We are talking about level 70

    This is very important for many hunter since there are over 9000 topics about level 80 specs.
    But many people are still raiding this last month and are curious about the spec then.
    Speccing pre-wotlk is very hard, tbh
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    Try to boil everything down to a negative catch phrase all you want. We're still going to spend countless hours making Warlords of Draenor the most epic expansion possible.

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    Re: Hunter 3.0

    Hit does not effect dodges, parriers or blocks, only reduces your miss chance. The stat to reduce dodges and parriers is expertice.

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