ok heres the deal. As destro i tried everything against a friend of mine whos mutilate spec and i could not beat him. he would get cheap shot some damage then kidney and i would trinket. he would immediately pop cloak so i couldnt deathcoil or shadowfury and with the amount of damage they are doing i died before cloak wore off. the second time i tried trinketing the cheap shot and shadowfury then death coil and fear but the fear wasnt fast enough with the death coil and he cloaked an dit was over again. Im kinda lost on how to actually beat them. maybe have succi out and charm the after the cheap shot and use fear shadowfury etc?