Shadowpriest: Fun or not fun?

[Freyros]

This post is inspired by this thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...39981&sid=2000

Aside from answering to the poll, please, write what makes a shadowpriest a fun class for you or what made it a fun class in TBC (that is, if you find it lacking in WotLK).

For me it was:

1. Unique abilities, that were so good, that everyone wanted me in their group and that there was no serious 25-man raid without a spriest.
2. An interesting spell "rotation" (or rather: list of priorities), as opposed to every other caster DPS. Yes, I love SW and having no set rotation.
3. The coolness factor of Shadowform and of playing an evil priest.

That was the main points. Point one will be no longer a case in WotLK and point two will partially diminish as well (for example: SW will no longer boost your dmg as much, as it did earlier, so I'll probably won't use it every cooldown anymore). And I see nothing compensating for the said loses.

[Lostprophet]

Imo, we keep all our "coolness" and get some new ones, like Mind Sear.

Mind Sear is really Fun, no more standing Idle during Trashes like in MH.

We do more dmg, and MF crits looks awesome:> Generally our dmg number got alot higher.

[Marrakech]

of course it's more fun than TBC, but that doesn't make it fun.

retired my spriest for my warrior.

[Marrakech]

Imo, we keep all our "coolness" and get some new ones, like Mind Sear.

Mind Sear is really Fun, no more standing Idle during Trashes like in MH.

We do more dmg, and MF crits looks awesome:> Generally our dmg number got alot higher.

you were standing idle during MH trash? swp-tab and weave in VT, you can pull some interesting dps.

[Tasttey]

you were standing idle during MH trash? l2p swp-tab and weave in VT, you can pull some interesting dps.

Or you could do what I did. MC the casters and start buffing anyone in range, including classes that really shouldn't get it. Great to do on that warlock spamming Hellfire in the middle of the pack.

[Marrakech]

Or you could do what I did. MC the casters and start buffing anyone in range, including classes that really shouldn't get it. Great to do on that warlock spamming Hellfire in the middle of the pack.

ah you were on MC duty

[Tasttey]

It wasn't a duty really, it was more of a see how many people I could kill with the buff thing.

Oh look Mr. Fury Warrior is using Whirlwind, hmm I wonder if I give him this buff will he pull aggro and die?

Oh Mr. Warlock is Hellfiring, I wonder if the additional 500 nature damage every 2 seconds will be enough to finish him off?

[Dyo]

of course it's more fun than TBC, but that doesn't make it fun.

so smart sentence

[Freyros]

of course it's more fun than TBC, but that doesn't make it fun.

retired my spriest for my warrior.

Either you're contradicting yourself, or you didn't have fun with your spriest in TBC. :P

[Tasttey]

I think he's trying to say that while it is more fun than TBC shadow priesting, its not fun enough to keep him playing his priest.

[Caidrin]

Not Fun
Why?

The only diffrence i can really see is that i will substitue DP for SW:P in my pre 3.0 rotation/priority, my post 3.0 priority/rotation consists of casting everything in the same order save for casting SW:P onces near the start of the battle.

I wouldn't of said no to something cool.

[Tasttey]

I can't really say it will be more or less fun than it is now, I didn't get a beta key, so I never got to play with Mind Sear. Although with the change to crit damage, I might make it a habit of finding new and interesting times to commit suicide, however unintentionally.

[nine]

im sick of all this theorycrafting and qq'ing
cant wait to try out new stuff, looks fun and interesting and with the new spellpower change i can always go disc and faceroll :3

[Ntrails]

Mind Sear is really Fun, no more standing Idle during Trashes like in MH.

Standing idle? Why would you ever do that? Every trash pull I would mulit DoT every tanked target - giving some mana regen and doing very respectable DPS (higher than I have gotten at any other time, over 1700 on occasion I believe) - as well as single target nuking the casters. Yes I was pretty much ooom every wave I played like that, but it was still decent damage. Mind sear is a massive boost, but that just sounds absurd.

[Deleted]

Standing idle? Why would you ever do that? Every trash pull I would mulit DoT every tanked target - giving some mana regen and doing very respectable DPS (higher than I have gotten at any other time, over 1700 on occasion I believe) - as well as single target nuking the casters. Yes I was pretty much ooom every wave I played like that, but it was still decent damage. Mind sear is a massive boost, but that just sounds absurd.

Yep multidotting @ waves ftw... getting up to 2k dps

Not gonna happen after 3.0.2. tho since VT sux now @ giving mana back and Mind Sear isnt available till wotlk... Happy i dont raid MH anymore

[Sashan]

vampiric touch sucks, end of story. shadow priests bring nothing unique to raids now and we still do shitty dps thanks to blizzard catering to casuals all the time

Someone is bitter about them no longer obtaining a guaranteed raid spot. And its not because blizzard catering to the casuals - its that missing 1 of any particular class should not mean a raid doesnt happen. (hence giving several classes replenishment). And if you think you still do shitty dps, well, you must just plain fail tbh - sure you dont do "the best" but SP does some mighty fine dps now in general for those that know how to play.

Also hopefully in future raid encounters we should not have any more of the "you must have at least 3 priests or your cant do this" - a la Felmyst.

[zerovampire311]

vampiric touch sucks, end of story. shadow priests bring nothing unique to raids now and we still do shitty dps thanks to blizzard catering to casuals all the time

I agree with this, not for above poster's "Guaranteed raid spot", but rather that there's much less difference to a really good and a mediocre spriest. It won't matter that I've near perfected my rotations for optimal mana regen, since I'll be providing the same benefit to the raid as anyone with a working finger. Sure, I'll still smoke their dps, but SPriest scaling is still so broken that it doesn't really matter.

[Deleted]

Someone is bitter about them no longer obtaining a guaranteed raid spot. And its not because blizzard catering to the casuals - its that missing 1 of any particular class should not mean a raid doesnt happen. (hence giving several classes replenishment). And if you think you still do shitty dps, well, you must just plain fail tbh - sure you dont do "the best" but SP does some mighty fine dps now in general for those that know how to play.

Also hopefully in future raid encounters we should have a "you must have at least 3 priests or your cant do this" a la Felmyst.

I have no problem with sharing our mana regen abilities with other classes (tho replenishment via VT and MB is a bit 'clunky') when it means we get something back in the form of extra dps... Problem is my blue / kara epic geared boomkin is doing almost the same dps as my T6 / sunwell geared spriest @ PTR... :P

That plus the fact we get nothing new and exciting (except for Mind Sear and maybe our critting MF) makes it a bit 'unfun' :P

[Richolds]

Exactly, It's obnoxious that I'll be returning the same mana as a spriest who sucks cock, and still be doing less dps than all other dps classes. It seems obvious to me that they should have held off the replenishment until damage was buffed, or else not changed it at all >.<

[gatgat]

I agree with this, not for above poster's "Guaranteed raid spot", but rather that there's much less difference to a really good and a mediocre spriest. It won't matter that I've near perfected my rotations for optimal mana regen, since I'll be providing the same benefit to the raid as anyone with a working finger. Sure, I'll still smoke their dps, but SPriest scaling is still so broken that it doesn't really matter.

This.

Why did they ever move away from damage -> mana...it was the optimal setup in my opinion. So one shadowpreist/retpally/whatever just does there base damage and give the same mana regen as if he had a perfectly set up rotation and was using all his cds. I think thats just really dumb