Upcoming boss and classes changes, blue posts

[stupid11]

sorry for not knowing how to quote,
But this makes me think... They do think warlocks are broken or els they wouldent say that in that way.
maybe im just paranoid

What they wanted was to keep other classes from saying "omg look at all the attention they're giving to locks! I want more posts in the class X forum, GC!"

God no, don't change it. Finally there is a spec we can play that actually takes significant player skill to maximize damage rather than the mindless button spam that most classes consist of. The only change that was needed to smooth out the Affliction rotations was reducing the cooldown of Haunt as to increase the spread between the CD and the duration- and they already did that. We should see it on live within the next couple of weeks.

Anyway, if it's too complex even after that then try another spec. Demonology raid builds are pretty simple. Just don't try to ruin it for those of us that can handle it. Complex rotations are fun.

Come back and say that in a year, when you're middle of the road DPS, getting beat by Moonkins spamming 1 nuke and keeping a meager 2 Dots up.

Stun yes.... kill I doubt it on a 1v1 situation.

Same thing with rogues.

[Musabi]

I suppose I am doomed to use Daggers if I want to pvp =\ Mutilate is daggers (obviously), shadow dance needs daggers, and combat is useless. Bye bye glaives =\

[Dannkk]

Demonology may be lower, but we're also not sure it would be fair for Demo to get the extra survivability and do the same dps. However, we do think it is much less the case now that Demo = PvP only and Destro = PvE only.

Wait Wait Wait!

Why did they put a raid buff that will more than likely scale to be stronger than totem of wrath in the "pvp only" tree? I was under the assumption that all 3 would be comparable after balancing.

[stupid11]

Lol ? I never had a raid with more than 2 hunters ... ever ... We don't get more invites...

Yea, in 2.4.3. If they didn't change hunter DPS, you would have seen 5+ in every raid in Wrath.

Wait Wait Wait!

Why did they put a raid buff that will more than likely scale to be stronger than totem of wrath in the "pvp only" tree? I was under the assumption that all 3 would be comparable after balancing.

He meant that demo is LESS SO pvp only and destro is LESS pve only. It was horribly worded though, I made the same mistake. :/

(Demo was never pvp only though. SL/SL was the only "pvp only" spec we had.)

[Elementium]

"They pay a small price both for being melee (where more damage tends to occur) and for lacking the ability to respec into a non-damage build."


Don't people make Rogues to be a DPS class? how many Rogues complain that they can't tank or heal for their groups?

[Ufalah]

Stun yes.... kill I doubt it on a 1v1 situation.

Paladin stun is 10 yard range and rogues are melee.

Ret paladins have no attack that goes 30 yards (HoW but that is usable only if you are under 35%)

Rogues can throw a weapon at you.

Odds are neither can stun you from 30 yards and/or kill you from 30 yards. Good game Deep Freeze.

[EDGarrash]

I've killed the Horseman over 400 times now and haven't seen the mount drop, I'm sure it's in his pockets somewhere tho... Summoning in 65-69s for hours for the win!

[Henrod]

it makes me sick to see so many nerfs to pallys and buffs to others when lvl 80 comes and we balance out and i lose a raid spot as Ret, im gonna have to hire some vodoo lady to put a curse on you bliz >

[Kamma]

Funny how none mentioned deep freeze is a PVP ONLY talent.

Therefore I think it NEEDS to be in some way particularly good there , since its dedicatd to it and has no other use. This change was not needed imo.

On the other hand, I agree brain freeze on ice lances was kinda Op.