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  1. #41

    Re: Lvl 80 PvE Mutilate Build, Any suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Necrolicious
    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?rogu...00000000000000

    is the best - highest - 4.5k on Patch-Loath-KT 25/Naxx spec .. if you even bother theorycraftin retarded shit .. please reroll a retardin kkthxbye
    Drop Opp for CQC and yes. It IS better, under all circumstances (baring RNG flukes, as per usual).

  2. #42

    Re: Lvl 80 PvE Mutilate Build, Any suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by ant1pahty
    Drop Opp for CQC and yes. It IS better, under all circumstances (baring RNG flukes, as per usual).
    crit becomes less and less effective at providing additional damege
    more crit ,does not increase dmg from the hits that are already critting
    when you have 0 crit do 100 dmg=100,and gain 5% ,you do 5% more dmg,simple (5dmg gained /100 dmg)
    when you have 90 crit doing 100dmg =190,and gain 5 crit you gain....2.6% dmg (5dmg gained / 190dmg)

    lookin at wws from tues
    currently raiding im running 62% crit on mut
    adding 2pts of opp would add 4.4% to my overall dmg
    adding 2pts of crit from cqc cant approach 1/2 that

  3. #43

    Re: Lvl 80 PvE Mutilate Build, Any suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by zbik
    crit becomes less and less effective at providing additional damege
    more crit ,does not increase dmg from the hits that are already critting
    when you have 0 crit do 100 dmg=100,and gain 5% ,you do 5% more dmg,simple (5dmg gained /100 dmg)
    when you have 90 crit doing 100dmg =190,and gain 5 crit you gain....2.6% dmg (5dmg gained / 190dmg)

    lookin at wws from tues
    currently raiding im running 62% crit on mut
    adding 2pts of opp would add 4.4% to my overall dmg
    adding 2pts of crit from cqc cant approach 1/2 that
    You aren't taking into account the energy regen on crit talent.
    80 Rogue - Barristan of Spinebreaker (main)
    70 Warlock - Petyr of Spinebreaker
    70 Druid - Kathrisper of Spinebreaker

  4. #44

    Re: Lvl 80 PvE Mutilate Build, Any suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barristan
    You aren't taking into account the energy regen on crit talent.
    Nor stats at 80, which is all I care about.

  5. #45

    Re: Lvl 80 PvE Mutilate Build, Any suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by zbik
    crit becomes less and less effective at providing additional damege
    more crit ,does not increase dmg from the hits that are already critting
    when you have 0 crit do 100 dmg=100,and gain 5% ,you do 5% more dmg,simple (5dmg gained /100 dmg)
    when you have 90 crit doing 100dmg =190,and gain 5 crit you gain....2.6% dmg (5dmg gained / 190dmg)

    lookin at wws from tues
    currently raiding im running 62% crit on mut
    adding 2pts of opp would add 4.4% to my overall dmg
    adding 2pts of crit from cqc cant approach 1/2 that
    If you would translate that into a language I can understand, I'll tell you why you're wrong.

  6. #46

    Re: Lvl 80 PvE Mutilate Build, Any suggestions?

    http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t26242-r...92/#post902467

    DW Spec: 91 DPS/Point
    Precision: 31 DPS/Point
    CQC: 50 DPS/Point

    Relentless Strikes: 107 DPS/Point
    Opportunity: 98 DPS/Point

    above takes everything into account, and CQC is 1/2 as powerful as Opp, in my own practice/testing and by the pure math

    if you tried it yourself you wouldn't be arguing the point,so im done trying to explain it in theory, 51/13/7 > 51/15/5

  7. #47

    Re: Lvl 80 PvE Mutilate Build, Any suggestions?

    You linked page 92 of 142. After the change to FA, the weighting changed rather strongly. Thanks for trying though!

  8. #48

    Re: Lvl 80 PvE Mutilate Build, Any suggestions?

    enlighten me, as to how nerfing focused attacks ,and making crit LESS valuable, somehow affects CQC positively ,and opp negatively in comparison

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