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    Does Shackle Undead work against Death Knights and their pets?

    Thanks

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    Re: Does Shackle Undead work against Death Knights and their pets?

    No, thank you!

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    Re: Does Shackle Undead work against Death Knights and their pets?

    I believe it will work on a Death Knight using Lichborne.

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    Re: Does Shackle Undead work against Death Knights and their pets?

    Works on the pet, but not the DK. I haven't seen anyone use Lichborne and get Shackled yet, your still technically considered humanoid in PVP.

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    Re: Does Shackle Undead work against Death Knights and their pets?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kassatsu
    Works on the pet, but not the DK. I haven't seen anyone use Lichborne and get Shackled yet, your still technically considered humanoid in PVP.
    Exorcism works on Lichborne, so I'd have to say Shackle would as well. You aren't technically humanoid when an ability changes you out of it, (see: Metamorphosis and Demo Warlocks. They aren't Humanoid, they ARE demons.)
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    Re: Does Shackle Undead work against Death Knights and their pets?

    Lichborne DKs ARE undead and therefore every ability which requires the target to be undead works. This is also true for other forms like warlocks demon form making them demon (obviously) or the druid tree form making them elemental (yes cou can banish resto druids...).

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    Re: Does Shackle Undead work against Death Knights and their pets?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghrim
    Lichborne DKs ARE undead and therefore every ability which requires the target to be undead works. This is also true for other forms like warlocks demon form making them demon (obviously) or the druid tree form making them elemental (yes cou can banish resto druids...).
    Funniest thing I ever saw was two demo warlocks duelling, first one popped Meta, second warlock banished first one. Alliance Ret shows up, and Second Warlock gets scared, pops Meta to start blasting him to hell. Then gets Exorcism crit'd in the face, Turned, and wtfpwnd. There were much lulz
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    Re: Does Shackle Undead work against Death Knights and their pets?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghrim
    Lichborne DKs ARE undead and therefore every ability which requires the target to be undead works. This is also true for other forms like warlocks demon form making them demon (obviously) or the druid tree form making them elemental (yes cou can banish resto druids...).
    My biggest question, in this case, is if two warlocks face up, one Morphs, and the other enslaves him, what happens? Is he the other guy's pet up until the duration finishes, or is he stuck like with Banish?

    Further, and this is nothing new, can you enslave another Warlock's pet?

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    Re: Does Shackle Undead work against Death Knights and their pets?

    Quote Originally Posted by PalliesThrowStuff
    My biggest question, in this case, is if two warlocks face up, one Morphs, and the other enslaves him, what happens? Is he the other guy's pet up until the duration finishes, or is he stuck like with Banish?

    Further, and this is nothing new, can you enslave another Warlock's pet?
    You will get the target error, so no :P this doesnt work.
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    Re: Does Shackle Undead work against Death Knights and their pets?

    Quote Originally Posted by bahumut5
    You will get the target error, so no :P this doesnt work.
    Which one? Both?

    So you can't enslave a morphed warlock?

    llllame.

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    Re: Does Shackle Undead work against Death Knights and their pets?

    impossible DK players are humanoids not undeads, undeads are only NPCs

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    Re: Does Shackle Undead work against Death Knights and their pets?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nisx
    impossible DK players are humanoids not undeads, undeads are only NPCs
    Lichborne - 3 min cooldown
    Draw upon unholy energy to become undead for 15 sec. While undead you are immune to charm, fear, and sleep effects, and your horrifying visage causes melee attacks to have an additional 25% chance to miss you."

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    Re: Does Shackle Undead work against Death Knights and their pets?

    so, an Unholy DK, could be shackled or Turned for....15 seconds? wewt? Barely even worth mentioning. Might as well just say " no, they are not."

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    Re: Does Shackle Undead work against Death Knights and their pets?

    In PvP, times are reduced, even before DR. So if a Lichborne DK gets turned, it won't be for the full duration. Same with Shackle. It will last as long as a PvP Sap (10 sec).

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    Re: Does Shackle Undead work against Death Knights and their pets?

    Yes, Death Knights can be shackled while Lichborne.
    Yes, their pet can be shackled.
    Yes, when they resurrect as a ghoul they can be shackled.
    Yes, players resurrected as a ghoul by the death knight can be shackled.

    No, you cannot fear them unless you're an OPdin.


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    Re: Does Shackle Undead work against Death Knights and their pets?

    Quote Originally Posted by Endriago
    so, an Unholy DK, could be shackled or Turned for....15 seconds? wewt? Barely even worth mentioning. Might as well just say " no, they are not."
    It's really rather amusing that you think 15 seconds doesn't matter in PvP.

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    Re: Does Shackle Undead work against Death Knights and their pets?

    10 seconds is a lot of time they're CC'd... especially if they popped their pvp trinket already.

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    Re: Does Shackle Undead work against Death Knights and their pets?

    Maybe thats the reason why a good DK would never use lichborne against a pala or priest?

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    Re: Does Shackle Undead work against Death Knights and their pets?

    Quote Originally Posted by Endriago
    so, an Unholy DK, could be shackled or Turned for....15 seconds? wewt? Barely even worth mentioning. Might as well just say " no, they are not."
    I can't even remember the last time I saw a dumber and more noob comment than this. I'm gonna take a wild guess here and say you're not on a pvp server.

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    Re: Does Shackle Undead work against Death Knights and their pets?

    Quote Originally Posted by PalliesThrowStuff
    Which one? Both?

    So you can't enslave a morphed warlock?

    llllame.
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