TwentyFifthNovember kills Sartharion with 3 adds up

[Boubouille]

TwentyFifthNovember kills Sartharion with 3 adds up
This time, we can really say that TwentyFifthNovember cleared all the PvE content currently available in Wrath of the Lich King. They managed to kill Sartharion with all his adds up and were rewarded with the Reins of the Twilight Drake! I'm not really sure if it's worth discussing whether it was too easy or not, just keep in mind that they're the best PvE guild in the world for the moment, that's 60~80 players out of 11 millions.

Congratulations to them, once again.

On a sidenote, the left menu of the site has been revamped and you should be able to find the pages you're looking for easily now. Naxxramas has been added to the dungeons list and the Armor Sets and Mounts pages have been moved to the Items category.

• The Obsidian Sanctum Loot List
• Tier 7 Armor Sets
• WotLK Mounts list

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Blue posts

Druid (Skills List / Talent Calc. (9095))
Upcoming Feral changes, Part II
On the subject of weapons, this change should be transparent to most druids. You will end up having a few more items that you can use, but your feral staves will continue to do the damage they do now. If it makes it clearer, imagine that feral attack power is not going away as a concept, but weapon dps will instead translate to their current FAP values. This is also not license for us to never again add weapons which are optimized for druids. It should just provide more options in between major upgrades.

On the subject of armor, the intent of the change is to give you more options in which trinkets and other jewelry you use, instead of always having to rely on the (relatively rare) bonus armor pieces. (We don't think the solution of just dropping bonus armor pieces everywhere is a great one either -- no single stat should trump the others by that much.) The change isn't intended to be a nerf at all. A lot of numbers have been thrown around in this thread. Give me some time to review them and see where any discrepancies lie.

Our design remains to have fewer specialized items drop so that more loot is actually valued by someone in the group. A lot of the druid itemization was a relic of the older system and we have been wanting to convert it over. But with any change like this, it may take some time before all of the rough edges are smoothed over. To use a tired cliche, the designers tend to take the stance that the design of WoW is a journey not a destination.

On the myriad of other topics...

I realize some players have made some passionate and intelligent arguments for other ways in which bears can scale from gear. That isn't something we are going to do at the moment, but something we may investigate in the future. I understand that it's fun to improve tanking gear, and while we don't want it to be such a burden to get the +armor pieces, we also don't want the choices to be so meaningless that you aren't gearing for tanking at all. Let's see how things stand after these changes go live.

We are not adding additional weapons that druids can use at the moment, but we may consider it in the future.

Block is a very good stat now, and we have read a lot about the notion that "unblocked hits are the new crushing blows." We don't want the block mechanic to mean that death knights and druids (and possibly even paladins) are left behind. Again the goal is to have four viable tank classes. That doesn't mean identical, but it also doesn't mean that druids get swapped out for some fights or relegated to permanent off-tank status. (Source)

Warlock (Skills List / Talent Calc. (9095))
Change to Warlock summoning and soul shards
We are. I attempted to preface the post above so that we wouldn't get a lot of "THAT'S IT?!" responses. This is *a* change. It is not *the* change. (Source)

[LavaDuck]

Grats.

In before the QQ

[Topcraft]

Great news, once again.
Does anyone have an ETA on 3.1? I reckon they'll wait a month or two, to give guilds the time to fully explore (and ransack) Naxxramas.

[burn]

great for you guys, but kinda saddens me lol
cuz now i level to 80, go in naxx and expect it to be easy, wipe and feel like a total failure

[weirdingway]

Please stop reporting these things. It's not news. If these guys are saying the game is too easy, then who cares that they were the first to beat it? They didn't beat the game within a healthy play period of playing the game. I'd be willing to bet that EVERY guild who at least cleared BT and MH pre-3.0.2 who spends the same amount of /played time (not just RL played time, which these guys just crammed in w/o no regard to RL) could do the same thing. Other people have real lives, and promoting these guys like they are special is definitely a desperate reach for news.

Moral of the story: If there isn't anything newsworthy to report, just take a day off. Don't get desperate. Besides, unless the fight dramatically changed from Beta, whomever did it in Beta was really the first to have done it.

[Exiztence]

Please stop reporting these things. It's not news. If these guys are saying the game is too easy, then who cares that they were the first to beat it? They didn't beat the game within a healthy play period of playing the game. I'd be willing to bet that EVERY guild who at least cleared BT and MH pre-3.0.2 who spends the same amount of /played time (not just RL played time, which these guys just crammed in w/o no regard to RL) could do the same thing. Other people have real lives, and promoting these guys like they are special is definitely a desperate reach for news.

Moral of the story: If there isn't anything newsworthy to report, just take a day off. Don't get desperate. Besides, unless the fight dramatically changed from Beta, whomever did it in Beta was really the first to have done it.

Now that's a retarded comment , that's like saying people who won golden medal on Olympics don't deserve the attention because they spend more time training then some people who work in regular work can.

[weirdingway]

Now that's a retarded comment , that's like saying people who won golden medal on Olympics don't deserve the attention because they spend more time training then some people who work in regular work can.

You are a complete moron and just did a worthless job attempting to link my comment and your idiotic analogy. The Olympics is a career goal, and something extremely difficult to accomplish, it is something you DO dedicate your life to or you don't have a chance in the world even getting to compete. If this game is truly as easy as these guys have been complaining on their website, simply chosing to take days off of work/school or even abandon them and play for 27 hours straight is not worth a kilobyte of bandwith. The blue posts were enough.

[burn]

Please stop reporting these things. It's not news. If these guys are saying the game is too easy, then who cares that they were the first to beat it? They didn't beat the game within a healthy play period of playing the game. I'd be willing to bet that EVERY guild who at least cleared BT and MH pre-3.0.2 who spends the same amount of /played time (not just RL played time, which these guys just crammed in w/o no regard to RL) could do the same thing. Other people have real lives, and promoting these guys like they are special is definitely a desperate reach for news.

Moral of the story: If there isn't anything newsworthy to report, just take a day off. Don't get desperate. Besides, unless the fight dramatically changed from Beta, whomever did it in Beta was really the first to have done it.

someones bitter...
its their job, u jealous bum

[Exiztence]

You are a complete moron and just did a worthless job attempting to link my comment and your idiotic analogy. The Olympics is a career goal, and something extremely difficult to accomplish, it is something you DO dedicate your life to or you don't have a chance in the world even getting to compete. If this game is truly as easy as these guys have been complaining on their website, simply chosing to take days off of work/school or even abandon them and play for 27 hours straight is not worth a kilobyte of bandwith. The blue posts were enough.

Well obviously they take this game seriously and dedicate perhaps unhealthy ammount of time in order to acomplish what they do . Your comment regarding that guilds that cleared Hyjal/BT pre3.0 could do the same might be right but they didn't , simply because they didn't dedicate the time to kill these bosses because at end , end-game was always about how much time you dedicate in it to archive what you want , the stuff was and always be time consuming and the more time you are willing to sarcrifice the more you are bound to archive.

[Exuro]

someones bitter...
its their job, u jealous bum

Qft
Its amazing how many are to stipid to see this.

the faster they clear the more and better sponsors they get. so just like all of us going to their job. i bet they have more RL than most of us

[Nezoia]

Killing it with 3 drakes up is hard enough. If you haven't cleared most of Naxxramas 25 and ofcource killed Sartharion, your opinion will be to flawed to deside about it's hard or not.

Try do Sartharion with one drake. Then two, and then see how scary the thought of 3 is.

[neh0e]

I have a job and in my spare I play WOW, there job is playing WOW.

go figure...

[proy]

I have a job and in my spare I play WOW, there job is playing WOW.

go figure...

You can say the same with acting, sports, or writing novels ....

[Janz]

Some douchebag actually made an account just to bash their accomplishment, whoa.

GZ!

[Pheno]

Anyone else kinda feel like this is hurting end-game raiding overall? I mean if a guild can clear all end-game raid content 1 week after the expansion hits, it gives end-game raiding almost a generic feeling. I don't even really care what the boss fights were like or what gear drops they got; however, when guilds were clearing AQ, Naxx, and BC raids I was always intrigued about the new bosses and gear and so on.

You can say the same with acting, sports, or writing novels ....

Those are actual jobs that provide an income to make a living and have an outlet in which to inspire and affect a large audience. When Warcraft starts having it's own prime-time television show on a major network to show top guilds raiding then that will become a valid comparison.

[Newor]

You are a complete moron and just did a worthless job attempting to link my comment and your idiotic analogy. The Olympics is a career goal, and something extremely difficult to accomplish, it is something you DO dedicate your life to or you don't have a chance in the world even getting to compete. If this game is truly as easy as these guys have been complaining on their website, simply chosing to take days off of work/school or even abandon them and play for 27 hours straight is not worth a kilobyte of bandwith. The blue posts were enough.

Not to mention that Olympics athlets doesn't have a "beta training" that only a few are choosen to do, so they can have advantage when the Olympic Games "goes live".

Everyone can try that (the career). If they can reach the goal (the gold medal) is a diferent story.

[Nezoia]

I have a job and in my spare I play WOW, there job is playing WOW.

go figure...

Because spending 3 hours on a evening makes it more than a hobby.

Wait what?

[Newor]

Anyone else kinda feel like this is hurting end-game raiding overall? I mean if a guild can clear all end-game raid content 1 week after the expansion hits, it gives end-game raiding almost a generic feeling. I don't even really care what the boss fights were like or what gear drops they got; however, when guilds were clearing AQ, Naxx, and BC raids I was always intrigued about the new bosses and gear and so on.

Those are actual jobs that provide an income to make a living and have an outlet in which to inspire and affect a large audience. When Warcraft starts having it's own prime-time television show on a major network to show top guilds raiding then that will become a valid comparison.

I only hope that:

1) They stop crying for content, since THEY choose to finish the entire xpac in a week;
2) Blizz doesn't go nuts and start to rush content in before their original schedule;
3) No more "Beta club" for a few select people to train and do it fast and 1st on live. Part of the fun is actually every single player discovering a lot of stuff on day 1 (live) and not comming with a beta book saying what to do and what to not...

[Dio]

You can say the same with acting, sports, or writing novels ....

Those are things you need talent for, if you want to be the best. Any half decent player who just dedicates enough time on this game can do what they did. After all it are scripted events which require a good reaction time at most.

Anyways I'm glad they are clearing it so easily. This means more people will be able to see and experience the content. I quit the game a few weeks after TBC, because TBC raiding was just horrible. We kept wiping in karazhan with a guild who had done Naxx and the top guilds weren't doing any better. Glad they are not making that same mistake this time.

[yoh000]

Okay i honestly don't understand the whole point of these threads? Could someone enlighten me?

I don't understand what there is to congratulate? There is nothing special about playing a game 24/7, now I'm not saying they don't have a life, I'm saying WoW IS there life and there's no denying that fact. The saddest part is the people who go ' AOMFG!!!11 GRATZ MAN U DE BESTZ!!!!11' seriously.. come on there's nothing to grats about unless you find being one of these skinny little computer geeks who get thrills over pixels on a screen and have achieved nothing fantastic in real life is a good thing? Oh well your opinion.