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  1. #21

    Re: What's up with Tailoring ?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lusi
    23 haste is better after you get geared up and start to do over 3,5k dps.
    I did that math once, and got the same result. Dunno if it accurate. I did them on an other computer, so can't show them right now. Any math on this would be nice.

  2. #22
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    Re: What's up with Tailoring ?!

    Quote Originally Posted by HellBurn
    For the moment, Tailoring has 2 epic crafts per class basicly. There's the 2crafts for healers, mage and warlock. They are all BoE. And they all suck.
    What happenned to Tailoring sets being equal to T5 ? Now they don't even match T7, and T7 is pretty easy to obtain.
    I have to admit, the capes are good, and what we can put on them too, but still, is tailoring still worth it ?
    Are other proffesions get the shaft too ? A friend of mine is a blackSmith and seems pretty satisfied by what he can make.
    So what's the point of being a tailorer if everything is bind on equiped ? Is blizzard going to implement other patterns ( well of course they are ) but will they make tailoring worth the 40g stacks of 20 cloths?
    you want welfare epics and its only t7 content... GG

  3. #23

    Re: What's up with Tailoring ?!

    imo, the Ebonweave peices are worth it simply because of the hit rating. As starting raid gear its perfect, you get a TON of hit rating from just two pieces leaving you lots of other gear slots to play with. Of course you wont be using your tailoring gear forever, but is there really a profession right now that can craft gear so good it will last past the current content?

  4. #24

    Re: What's up with Tailoring ?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lissia
    imo, the Ebonweave peices are worth it simply because of the hit rating. As starting raid gear its perfect, you get a TON of hit rating from just two pieces leaving you lots of other gear slots to play with. Of course you wont be using your tailoring gear forever, but is there really a profession right now that can craft gear so good it will last past the current content?
    Ebonweave is nice but it's BoE which means you can let a buddy make them for you. It's actually easier to run a few raids then to get mats (4day cd) and create this set. Besides this, heroics drop good robe, water drenched and frost/fire gloves from badges = better, easier, faster and cheaper.
    Tailoring it not worth the time, effort, cash unless you want the carpet.

  5. #25

    Re: What's up with Tailoring ?!

    There's a thread up on the WoW Profession forums discussing this too.

    On a side note, I wonder who Champploo is...

  6. #26

    Re: What's up with Tailoring ?!

    I imagine with an MCP more recipes will be added. They certainly left tailoring dead in the water after TBC release, but then it didn't need anything added to it. Engineering and JCing especially were weak and had a variety of things rolled out with the patches.

    Hopefully as the content changes, the gear will get upgraded and the lack of power tailoring provides at the moment will be seen to.


  7. #27

    Re: What's up with Tailoring ?!

    Let's see this makes, BS, JC, engineering, alchemy, leatherworking, and now add tailoring to the list of stupid threads made by people who don't understand how professions work.

    Yes, you clearly deserve t8 gear before Ulduar comes out OP...

  8. #28

    Re: What's up with Tailoring ?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Offhand
    Let's see this makes, BS, JC, engineering, alchemy, leatherworking, and now add tailoring to the list of stupid threads made by people who don't understand how professions work.

    Yes, you clearly deserve t8 gear before Ulduar comes out OP...
    Explain to us how a proffesion works.

  9. #29

    Re: What's up with Tailoring ?!

    I will agree that tailoring really isnt so hot because the buffs are quite mediocre/trivial, but i will stick with tailoring since ive been tailor/ench combo since lvl 10, 2 years ago. :P

    The only real reason i see to keep tailoring in other people's eyes though, is for the two mounts you can craft. they really help with getting your 50 mount or 100 mount achievements. (especially for taurens, as i see it..)

    And later on, if they add spellweave/moonshroud/ebonweave mounts, thats one extra mount for your specialization. not so bad.

  10. #30

    Re: What's up with Tailoring ?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zongo
    The only real reason i see to keep tailoring in other people's eyes though, is for the two mounts you can craft. they really help with getting your 50 mount or 100 mount achievements. (especially for taurens, as i see it..)
    the mount restriction has been removed.
    It's just a game.

  11. #31

    Re: What's up with Tailoring ?!

    Most of the professions are pretty much balls now, I leveled engineering on my DK simply for the bike, since I could have my titansteel stuff made by in-guild blacksmiths, Spiked titansteel helm is better than the plate dps goggles and for tanking crusaders resolution or whatever from Crusade rep is barely worse than the tanking goggles.

    My titansteel 2hr was replaced in my first 25 man naxx with the Jawbone and now sits in my bank, about the only good thing I got out of Engineering was the Sonic Booster and the Gnomish Army knife, woo frickin hoo.

    Honestly though I think the vendor cost on the Engineering bikes needs to come down a bit, ~12k gold just from vendor mats is absurd, I can understand the insane cost for the Travelers mammoth and some of the crazy unique vendor/faction bought mounts but we're talking about something that you've gotta farm a profession to 450 and a faction to exalted just for the ability to make it, then have to spend 12k gold just for vendor mats on top of farming everything else? If it wasn't for the fact I've already invested so much in leveling engineering I'd drop it for something else. Since at this point the goggles are worthless to me and the mount well it's cool but not enough to validate me dumping 12k gold on, I might as well save a bit more and get the travelers tundra mammoth.

  12. #32

    Re: What's up with Tailoring ?!

    Quote Originally Posted by HellBurn
    For the moment, Tailoring has 2 epic crafts per class basicly. There's the 2crafts for healers, mage and warlock. They are all BoE. And they all suck.
    What happenned to Tailoring sets being equal to T5 ? Now they don't even match T7, and T7 is pretty easy to obtain.
    I have to admit, the capes are good, and what we can put on them too, but still, is tailoring still worth it ?
    Are other proffesions get the shaft too ? A friend of mine is a blackSmith and seems pretty satisfied by what he can make.
    So what's the point of being a tailorer if everything is bind on equiped ? Is blizzard going to implement other patterns ( well of course they are ) but will they make tailoring worth the 40g stacks of 20 cloths?
    IT's the same for every professions. Every professions's set have the same ilvl

  13. #33

    Re: What's up with Tailoring ?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Offhand
    Let's see this makes, BS, JC, engineering, alchemy, leatherworking, and now add tailoring to the list of stupid threads made by people who don't understand how professions work.

    Yes, you clearly deserve t8 gear before Ulduar comes out OP...
    I like how people like you don't progress with the discussion, but rather, keep talking about the OP when the discussion really doesn't need to revert.


    As for how a profession works, these are my thoughts:
    A profession should be a useful skill that you can benefit from, or a means by which you can make a living.

    Short and sweet. Sadly, tailoring does neither of those. It is not useful for me to have it, it does not make me a living(ie gold)... it's basically equivalent to collecting coins or postage stamps - nothing more than a hobby.

  14. #34

    Re: What's up with Tailoring ?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dyspnoea
    Explain to us how a proffesion works.
    Every non-gathering profession provides something in the way of about +50 stat points worth of a self buff. Tailoring cloak enchants are hard to evaluate specifically because they provide a proc instead.

    Professions do not provide anything past Naxx 10 equivalency items. None of them do.

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    Re: What's up with Tailoring ?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Champloo
    A profession should be a useful skill that you can benefit from, or a means by which you can make a living.

    Short and sweet. Sadly, tailoring does neither of those. It is not useful for me to have it, it does not make me a living(ie gold)... it's basically equivalent to collecting coins or postage stamps - nothing more than a hobby.
    Not sure I agree with you, Champloo. A good portion of the cloth-wearing WoW community are not yet raiding or doing heroics. For those players, the ability to craft Ebonweave, Moonshroud or Spellweave epics, plus the rare items such as Hat of Wintery Doom, etc., make a lot of difference.

    Perhaps this gear does qualify as 'welfare', but few can disagree that the increased stats do a lot for the more casual player (who, as repeatedly noted elsewhere on these forums, make up the majority of WoW's player base).
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  16. #36

    Re: What's up with Tailoring ?!

    im currently selling a single piece of ebonweave for 250g on my server, and since im a specialist that means 500g every 3.5days for doing nothing but going to icecrown. im pretty happy with that tbh since the mats only cost 9g right now.

    Also i'm selling frostsavage gear which i had loads of since i used it for leveling tailoring, it generally sells for 150g+ per item, especially at this time since the new season has just started.

    not to mention normal bags, warlock bags, enchanting bags etc...

    I think anyone saying their profession isnt profitable is just lazy and doesn't want to try, but would rather moan untill someone walks them through the game.

    However the lack of good BoP items was pretty disappointing, and we could easily have been given a boosted tailor only leg enchant. but oh well.. the only reason im keeping tailoring is cause it's making me alot of gold right now, otherwise i'd drop it.

  17. #37

    Re: What's up with Tailoring ?!

    Ive leveled BS and JC to 450 on my pally and I feel your pain about the lack of BOP benefits. I understands blizzards desire to not FORCE you into hard to level professions to get the most out of raiding but I must say that I do also feel a bit robbed after knowing how much effort was put into leveling both (without a "daddy" toon to provide mats).

    I feel like I could have just as easily gone herbal/mining and found EASIER profit and just been able to buy what I had to work my arse off for.

    Tailoring seems to be just like all the others, good items but being BOE just makes it all to generic and not high enough ilevel or just not quite the right itemization to justify it.

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  18. #38

    Re: What's up with Tailoring ?!

    I've tried to sell Moonshroud on my server several times, nobody is buying, everyone keeps undercutting each other and it still isn't selling. Special cloth isn't like it was in BC.
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  19. #39

    Re: What's up with Tailoring ?!

    Just wait tailoring may suck now but when your trash farming or maybe even doing 25 man raids in the future and the best cloth caster thing in the game drops as a pattern and requires tailoring youll know.

  20. #40
    eibbun
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    Re: What's up with Tailoring ?!

    the ebonweave robe is hot compared to the heroes warlock robe D:

    ...yeah that's all

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