Thread: Patch 3.08 Windfury Glyph change

Originally Posted by myrddinde

But in this long testrun trinket procs (mirror of truth), berserking on mainhand will even out also.

You have said this twice and it is false. Random procs do not even out over a small amout of time, they even out over a large amount of time. One hour is not enough time to even it out, even though you assert that it is. This is a pure statistical sampling issue....your sample size of time versus the effects of the RNG of the proc in that time is too skewed. You need to run such a test for sevearl hours to assume the randomness evens out (probably upwards of 5 for the sample to even out). The only way that is happening is with crazy dedication or the existing enhancement shaman simulator...which you could have used to determine all of this.

I've seen you suggest you don't trust simulators...that's fine. But I have zero reason to trust or believe in your test as I question several baselines you have presented.

Originally Posted by Melchy

uhm... SS can most certainly proc WF. There was even a debate whether it would be good to time SS with WF cd.

where? its weird i havent experienced WF proc out of SS once in last 6months

Then somebody isn't paying attention. SS can and does proc WF. You really don't notice it when the mob your fighting goes from full health to a third health with one button press? It happens all the time.

Doesn't the cooldown remain the same? So it would be a 0 net gain in dps? lol >.>

I personally love the change will help out the one remaining 2h shaman(me) lol now if only I could use lava lash to :.

Originally Posted by Mataus

Doesn't the cooldown remain the same? So it would be a 0 net gain in dps? lol >.>

Cooldown remains the same but it doesn't matter. WF doesn't automatically proc every 3 seconds, it might take a lot longer - I've had WF go without proccing for 8 seconds before. By upping the proc chance, you get procs closer and closer to the time the CD comes up.

Originally Posted by lsfreak

Cooldown remains the same but it doesn't matter. WF doesn't automatically proc every 3 seconds, it might take a lot longer - I've had WF go without proccing for 8 seconds before. By upping the proc chance, you get procs closer and closer to the time the CD comes up.

True, I was thinking that... but then I went back and forth. Until the cooldown is gone though, I'd still think an increased proc chance isn't going to truly shine.

Originally Posted by antifreeze

i think 5 % is more like to be used for 2h.

Honestly i think you hit the nail on the head here. Its more aimed at the huge burst damage possible for pvp 2h shamans.

Originally Posted by Mataus

True, I was thinking that... but then I went back and forth. Until the cooldown is gone though, I'd still think an increased proc chance isn't going to truly shine.

If WF is already only proccing every 4.5-6 seconds, is dropping the cooldown really going to do much? Sure, you'd get a few procs inside the 3 seconds, but if the average is that long after the CD's up, upping the proc chance is a good way to up the damage.

Originally Posted by Shaamwow

The one remaining shaman who does less dps than all of the other shamen.

ZING!

Originally Posted by Shaamwow

The one remaining shaman who does less dps than all of the other shamen.

yea don't really care about pve more of a pvp fan and personally I would like to be able to use 2h more effectively in pvp like another attack or something.