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  1. #1

    Is it too much to ask for if we want shackle to work on all targets??

    Any reasons why not...?

  2. #2

    Re: Is it too much to ask for if we want shackle to work on all targets??

    PvP or PvE-wise?

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    Re: Is it too much to ask for if we want shackle to work on all targets??

    Healing classes generally haven't been all that strong at CC. If priests had fear and shackle on separate DRs then this could easily be seen as overpowered in small scale pvp.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinshiva
    The fact remains that you FUCKING FAIL.

  4. #4

    Re: Is it too much to ask for if we want shackle to work on all targets??

    Quote Originally Posted by gobtol
    Healing classes generally haven't been all that strong at CC. If priests had fear and shackle on separate DRs then this could easily be seen as overpowered in small scale pvp.
    Yeah but look at druids... Entangling roots and cyclone... =/

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    Re: Is it too much to ask for if we want shackle to work on all targets??

    Quote Originally Posted by reinx
    Yeah but look at druids... Entangling roots and cyclone... =/
    Yeah druids are an exception, and they were pretty overpowered for the biggest part of TBC.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinshiva
    The fact remains that you FUCKING FAIL.

  6. #6

    Re: Is it too much to ask for if we want shackle to work on all targets??

    Quote Originally Posted by gobtol
    Yeah druids are an exception, and they were pretty overpowered for the biggest part of TBC.
    Ok, good point. Could you explain to me how it would be OP then? I honestly cannot think why it would be.

  7. #7

    Re: Is it too much to ask for if we want shackle to work on all targets??

    Shackle is a full CC. I.E can't do -anything- while shackled.

    Druids entangling roots isn't, you can still cast/shoot/throw etc. It's only a root.

    Cyclone lasts 6 seconds with diminishing effects.....

    So please don't try to use a druids poor CC as an excuse to get shackle to work on everything.

    Plus if they make it so shackle works on everything, then every class in the game is going to DEMAND a CC.

    This game is getting dumbed down enough as is, quite frankly, I miss the days of Mages being the only form of GOOD cc.

  8. #8

    Re: Is it too much to ask for if we want shackle to work on all targets??

    Fear, trinket, shackle. The target is now eating a full 10 second cc. If you're running with a rogue the target will probably eat a full blind as well and possibly a full sap into a fear from the priest. Effectively putting the target out of action for 30-40 seconds.

  9. #9

    Re: Is it too much to ask for if we want shackle to work on all targets??

    ok i see!

    How about if I said it didn't fully CC you, with just a root effect! :]
    and of course put a CD on it...

    still op?

  10. #10

    Re: Is it too much to ask for if we want shackle to work on all targets??

    Quote Originally Posted by reinx
    Ok, good point. Could you explain to me how it would be OP then? I honestly cannot think why it would be.
    Look at #1 comp in 2v2 and the LOL it would become if priests got a polymorph that doesn't heal the target.


    In short: mages would QQ. Rest would find anyone who even suggested such a thing utterly clueless.

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    Re: Is it too much to ask for if we want shackle to work on all targets??

    Quote Originally Posted by reinx
    How about if I said it didn't fully CC you, with just a root effect! :]
    and of course put a CD on it...
    Great, you just killed the best PvE CC against undead. Stop thinking, stop posting, you are no good at it.

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    Re: Is it too much to ask for if we want shackle to work on all targets??

    Quote Originally Posted by Phage0070
    Great, you just killed the best PvE CC against undead. Stop thinking, stop posting, you are no good at it.
    All I know is Spriests are going to be useless in PvP until they can have some sort of a root/CC instead of just one fear... even if its a small one.

  13. #13

    Re: Is it too much to ask for if we want shackle to work on all targets??

    Quote Originally Posted by reinx
    All I know is Spriests are going to be useless in PvP until they can have some sort of a root/CC... even if its a small one.
    Mind flay is a snare. Instant AoE fear is a CC. Shield helps against melee damage, and Divine Hymn can provide some breathing room.

    Don't complain to me, I play a warlock.

  14. #14

    Re: Is it too much to ask for if we want shackle to work on all targets??

    Yes.Yes it is too much to ask.

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    Re: Is it too much to ask for if we want shackle to work on all targets??

    Quote Originally Posted by Phage0070
    Mind flay is a snare. Instant AoE fear is a CC. Shield helps against melee damage, and Divine Hymn can provide some breathing room.

    Don't complain to me, I play a warlock.
    Not complaining. Suggesting, so I can see reactions and understand more if it is OP
    I'm understanding more and more that it is.

    Sooner they fix the shared CD between Divine Hymn and PS the better...

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    Re: Is it too much to ask for if we want shackle to work on all targets??

    Quote Originally Posted by Dokoran
    druids poor CC
    lul
    "There's a difference between us. You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom. And I go to make sure that they have it."
    - William Wallace

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    Re: Is it too much to ask for if we want shackle to work on all targets??

    Quote Originally Posted by Phage0070
    Mind flay is a snare. Instant AoE fear is a CC. Shield helps against melee damage, and Divine Hymn can provide some breathing room.

    Don't complain to me, I play a warlock.
    Curse of Exhaustion is a snare, Howl of Terror is a CC, improved fear helps against melee damage, and Shadowfury can provide some breathing room.

    If you don't want priest complaints then gtfo of the priest forum jackass

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    Re: Is it too much to ask for if we want shackle to work on all targets??

    Quote Originally Posted by Aureact
    Curse of Exhaustion is a snare, Howl of Terror is a CC, improved fear helps against melee damage, and Shadowfury can provide some breathing room.

    If you don't want priest complaints then gtfo of the priest forum jackass
    You just listed spells from 2 different speccs, ok then Pain suppresion gives breathing room, guardian spirit helps in healing, mind flay is a snare
    If in doubt afk out

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    Re: Is it too much to ask for if we want shackle to work on all targets??

    Quote Originally Posted by Dokoran
    ...druids poor CC...
    After this i stoped reading - and LOL'ed.

  20. #20

    Re: Is it too much to ask for if we want shackle to work on all targets??

    what about paladin??? a stun that can be cleanse/resist/miss????


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