Original WoW Server?

[svettigt]

I was just wondering what the community of mmo-champion would think of Blizzard starting a Pre-TBC server. Healers with 6000mana and all of that, imo it was harder and more exciting to play when you were 40 guys and only 1-2 items dropped of the bosses. Your character was more unique then it is now during WotLK and also more unique then during TBC. So, how would you feel if Blizzard started an "Original WoW Server"?

[MaritnR]

Original Naxx was the only difficult original instance, and evan that was screwed with gear checks (4HM)

end tbc was IMO the best raiding so far SW pre nurf ect.

as for more unique... there were LESS items available, really only 1 set per class which forced specs.

Olden days were fun back in the day, but tbc brought some great changes, just as I'm sure WOLK will in time.

[Muxxon]

Another great example of irrational nostalgia.

[Elementium]

Sounds good right? not so much.


I do think that our stats are way too much 30k health tanks? 20k mana pools? it'd be nice if they could scale things back down so we could say "holy crap that tank has 10k health!"

I do think they should open up ONE server though.. so people who think their should be original WoW servers can hop into a 40 man with their class and see that it isn't anything like it is now. When it comes to what blizz wants for classes they're bi-polar.

[velourea]

I can see it happen, you won't have to downgrade or even have an expansion, just some simple coding for an old type of server and I'd believe a lot of people would be interested. would be a nice side feature if you're bored with the current stuff, just log on an alt and play some old content again. if it were really popular they might even add servers to play every endgame at intended difficulty.
it would be better than most stuff devs waste their time on. and would probably only get more people to play the game.

[Shapeshiftr]

I can see it happen, you won't have to downgrade or even have an expansion, just some simple coding for an old type of server and I'd believe a lot of people would be interested. would be a nice side feature if you're bored with the current stuff, just log on an alt and play some old content again. if it were really popular they might even add servers to play every endgame at intended difficulty.
it would be better than most stuff devs waste their time on. and would probably only get more people to play the game.

This man speaks the truth. I'd love to get back into MC/BWL.

[Blikje]

I can see it happen, you won't have to downgrade or even have an expansion, just some simple coding for an old type of server and I'd believe a lot of people would be interested. would be a nice side feature if you're bored with the current stuff, just log on an alt and play some old content again. if it were really popular they might even add servers to play every endgame at intended difficulty.
it would be better than most stuff devs waste their time on. and would probably only get more people to play the game.

Wrong, it's allot of work since the talents and spells all classes got with the expansion need to be changed back to how they used to be and for every change Blizzard makes they need to put in more work to make it right for the original servers.

Your asking for Blizzard to put work into undoing what they did just because you don't like things changing... How about you stop playing MMO's instead of these useless requests? I'd like Blizzard to spend the manpower in making more interesting dungeons, quests, achievements and expansions instead of downgrading their product for several people who can't get used to changes.

[Sien]

Didnt they say that they would never ever do this when asked? I think I saw something like this in the general forums at one time.

Another case of irrational nostalgia.

You got that right.

[jaynarchy]

Wrong, it's allot of work since the talents and spells all classes got with the expansion need to be changed back to how they used to be and for every change Blizzard makes they need to put in more work to make it right for the original servers.

Your asking for Blizzard to put work into undoing what they did just because you don't like things changing... How about you stop playing MMO's instead of these useless requests? I'd like Blizzard to spend the manpower in making more interesting dungeons, quests, achievements and expansions instead of downgrading their product for several people who can't get used to changes.

i have yet to understand why people are QQing so much about the changes. there are more tanks then there has ever been. there's still a shortage of healers, though. i don't really PvP so i'm not seeing that aspect of it too much. but i'm happy with the PvE content so far. i like that Naxx and other Raids can be PuG'd. in vanilla WoW i made the mistake of making a hunter as my first toon. when i realized that the servers/guilds were over-flooded with them i decided to make a healer. i got to do a few Gruul's but never got past that content. now, however, i'm able to do end game content with my Prot Pally without having to worry about whether or not i'm in a raiding guild. i've had more fun in LK than pervious expansions. the only real complaint is that i'm tired of seeing DKs all over the place. just like i was tired of seeing Shaman when TBC released. i truly believe that GC and all the over Devs are doing what they can to make the mechanics/dungeons fun for every player. people just need to be patient.

[Marvdatboi]

Another great example of irrational nostalgia.

^ This.

[Amgyn]

people will start getting upset and want "updates" to these servers. then blizzard will have to pay attention to these people which will take away resources from what actually matters.

then the updates won't come to these servers, and the people playing on these servers will get bored. They will start playing on their old servers, but realize they spent too much time on the old servers and are too far behind to catch up. They will then quit the game and stop paying blizzard. or at least complain about quitting the game.

quit living in the past.

[Piscesthepally]

It really is all just nostalgia.. I mean sure, vanilla WoW had its fun times, but the game is in actuality so much better now then it was in vanilla.

That said, it would be nice if they opened one realm up. I don't see what the harm would be.

[Froppy]

uhhhhhh.. You can do that now?

Don't buy the expansions, and lvl to 60. You can do absolutely everything you used to be able to minus Naxx and attunements.

There's no reason you can't get 5 lvl 60s and do scholo over and over. Or MC, BWL, etc... There's nothing stopping anyone.

You know why people don't? It's fucking stupid.

I really don't understand the MMO obsession with nostalgia. Just like in RL... old times were generally worse than current times, people are just too stupid to understand how good they have it until it's gone. Classic WoW should be called Shitty WoW imo as the game has gotten so much better in the last 4 years.

[Awinee]

Wrong, it's allot of work since the talents and spells all classes got with the expansion need to be changed back to how they used to be and for every change Blizzard makes they need to put in more work to make it right for the original servers.

Your asking for Blizzard to put work into undoing what they did just because you don't like things changing... How about you stop playing MMO's instead of these useless requests? I'd like Blizzard to spend the manpower in making more interesting dungeons, quests, achievements and expansions instead of downgrading their product for several people who can't get used to changes.

Oh realy? And you don't think blizzard still has backups from pre-tbc? All they have to do is buy a new Server in one of their 10 or so data centers and set it up. So please, get a clue before you speak.

[Wartrin]

So, how would you feel if Blizzard started an "Original WoW Server"?

Buy a second copy of the game. Don't install BC or WotLK. Enjoy your "Original WoW Server".

[Awinee]

Buy a second copy of the game. Don't install BC or WotLK. Enjoy your "Original WoW Server".

I don't see why ppl give smart comments like this. You all know that is not the original WoW Server because it still has all the new talents, and all the increases of quest xp, and what ever not that was given in the past 100 patches. Srsly, stop acting smart

[Athor]

people will start getting upset and want "updates" to these servers. then blizzard will have to pay attention to these people which will take away resources from what actually matters.

then the updates won't come to these servers, and the people playing on these servers will get bored. They will start playing on their old servers, but realize they spent too much time on the old servers and are too far behind to catch up. They will then quit the game and stop paying blizzard. or at least complain about quitting the game.

quit living in the past.

You couldnt be more wrong if u tried.

More people would come back, people on original servers would pay subscriptions, they would pay for there maintanence. You wouldnt be forced to play it, unlike peopel beign forced to play wotlk if they want a wow experience.

This is like saying private servers will cause wow to fail, its stupid and irrational and people only say it coz of fear that it will affect them, it wont, u can still play on ur welfare servers. Do pve servers stop pvp servers form having fun? no so quit whining.

I could explain everything to you why original servers are good idea but u wouldnt get it. If they made it that 60 instances were still hard aty 80, then original servers would be pointless, but when an expansion comes out it makes all content worthless, so in essence it REPLACES the end game, it doesnt add anything to it, its just different bosses, so why cant we choose which end game content we want

[Awinee]

You couldnt be more wrong if u tried.

More people would come back, people on original servers would pay subscriptions, they would pay for there maintanence. You wouldnt be forced to play it, unlike peopel beign forced to play wotlk if they want a wow experience.

This is like saying private servers will cause wow to fail, its stupid and irrational and people only say it coz of fear that it will affect them, it wont, u can still play on ur welfare servers. Do pve servers stop pvp servers form having fun? no so quit whining.

I could explain everything to you why original servers are good idea but u wouldnt get it. If they made it that 60 instances were still hard aty 80, then original servers would be pointless, but when an expansion comes out it makes all content worthless, so in essence it REPLACES the end game, it doesnt add anything to it, its just different bosses, so why cant we choose which end game content we want

Athor for president. Well said my man well said!

[greenmasheen]

it would be cool for bliz to allow an instant 60 toon for those of us who leveled a toon pre BC... i wouldnt mind going into BWL, AQ, and Naxx... because i wasnt able to see all of the content before 2.0 came out

[Q]

Oh realy? And you don't think blizzard still has backups from pre-tbc? All they have to do is buy a new Server in one of their 10 or so data centers and set it up. So please, get a clue before you speak.

Obviously, you don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about. In particular concerning the technical part of an MMO.

Just putting a backup on a server? That won't do it pal. Creating a classic server would cost Blizzard an increased amount of hardware and manpower.

Technical maintenance? You need a team particularly for the classic server, because it's a totally different version of the game's software. Meaning: Twice the effort each downtime although it's only one more server. You need a special team of GMs for the server, because the guidelines they need to follow to deal with technical difficulties varies a lot - different version of the game's software.

And then there's the fact that WoW has bugs in every version of it; that's normal, it's an MMO, a software that constantly evolves. Of course, Blizzard could say "Look customers, it's a classic server, we don't fix the bugs over there." But what would happen? People would constantly complain about the lack of customer care and Blizz could not allow this from a PR standpoint. It would just make them look bad. So - they'd need to hire people especially to deal with the bugs of an outdated version of their software. All this means of a lot of effort. And money.

All that hassle for a few dozens of people who think vanilla was better? I heartily doubt it. Besides that, what would that do Blizzard any good? Using their ressources to create a server where you have no need for any of their expansions or their new content? Why would they want to do that??