Wanting opinions for the way to go for raid UH dps.

[JackSinister]

So here is my conundrum. When I spec for PvE/raids I usually take the cookie-cutting blood spec of 51/13/7 and toss around a few of the blood points for better healing because I like the idea of being able to keep myself alive.

My problem is that I frankly get bored of specs sometimes, and I find myself wanting to test a raid UH spec and see how it performs. But I also would like to keep some survivability in my spec so ever time some ally finds me at a summoning stone I can keep myself alive to either fight or get away (and other similar situations).

So, any thoughts/ideas?

[Chaosgaurdian]

if your going for pve dps, should you really spec for survivability? that survivability is for pvp, not pve, because i'm sure you run with good healers that can top you off np. Because really, you might be able to "self heal", but its so insignificant when it shows up on healing charts.....its not like a bloom, or flash, or riptide wont heal you back up.

[JackSinister]

I don't want to spec for ultimate survivability, but I remember to often with my heal addon told me a heal was coming my way and it wouldn't have reached me in time if I hadn't had a Rune Tap. It's just a personal pet peeve of mine.

[JackSinister]

I played with the calculator and I came up with something like this:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=j

Since I already know which two talents are going to raise questions, I'll explain my reasoning.

Rune Tap: Again, I like having something to keep me going, because I know that healers won't always be able to reach you in time.

Bone Shield: At first, I wasn't planning on taking this. I considered it briefly for that one more inch of survivability, but but when I saw the new patch addition (%2 more damage with spells, attacks, and abilities) I decided I could spare it one point. It gives me some kind of attack buff (albeit a minor one) and makes me a little more durable.

EDIT: and here's an armory link if that helps with opinions at all. The Gladiator's chestpiece it shows is replaced by this http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39239 for PvE and the Medallion of the Horde is replaced by http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37166
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...=N%C3%B8cturne

[Bullshifter]

Elitistjerks current cookie cutter build is the talent build I have right now, and it's great for personal dps + raid utility.

Check it out in http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t37087-u...ps_discussion/