What's our hit cap?

[Xelaeno]

Yes I know, it's a silly question. Sorry for been lazy, I know it's somewhere but i seriously don't have time to search. Anyway, what's our hit cap for the following?

Regular Dungeons:
Shadow: with full +% hit talent?
Shadow: not talented?
Smite: (supposedly start from 0)

Heroic Dungeons:
Shadow: with full +% hit talent?
Shadow: not talented?
Smite: (supposedly start from 0)

10 Men Raids:
Shadow: with full +% hit talent?
Shadow: not talented?
Smite: (supposedly start from 0)

25 Men Raids:
Shadow: with full +% hit talent?
Shadow: not talented?
Smite: (supposedly start from 0)

PVP in 80 BG:
Shadow: with full +% hit talent?
Shadow: not talented?
Discipline:
Smite: (supposedly start from 0)

If any pros have time to fill this out, it'd be awesome ty ty ty.

[Anglarana]

Hit cap is 17%

You get 1% free from draenai if your playing on alliance
You have 6% in your shadow tree if specced properly.

That means on hitrating you just need 10% more, which is 290 hit rating. This is needed for everywhere. And hit rating in pvp? Last time I checked that wasnt needed. Resilience / spell penetration are the pvp stats to go for, But I can be mistaken of course

[Deleted]

with 1% from draenei and 6% from talents is 10% needed = 263 rating, not 290

[Worshaka]

I think you are over complicating the question...

Best way to look at it is to assume 0 gear, 0 talents, 0 party buffs, you need the following per lvl

Same Lvl - 4% hit
+1 your lvl - 5% hit
+2 your lvl - 6% hit
+3 your lvl - 17% hit

You can make up the hit via hit rating, talents or buffs.

Shadow priests will generally spec into Shadow Focus & Misery which give a total of 6% hit, meaning you need to find another 11% from gear or other buffs (such as the dranei 1% hit thing). 11% hit equates to 290 hit rating or another way to look at it is 26.23 hit rating will give you 1% to hit.

There is also more information at http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell_hit if you want to look into it further... you can get very complex about percievably easy concepts.

[Ektoplasme]

with 1% from draenei and 6% from talents is 10% needed = 263 rating, not 290

You cannot assume you'll have a draenei in your group...

[Nezoia]

In pvp you need 9% hit rating. And remember Shadow Focus do NOT benefit Dispel Magic, thus you want 6% hit rating if you're pvp'in as shadow.

[Lostprophet]

9% ?

U need 4%....against opponents on the same level.

or do I forget something?

[Mandible]

There is 1% you can't get get hit for, so the cap is 16%.

[Worshaka]

Wrong, this was removed in LK... that used to be the case in classic & TBC

[Ananan]

I guess the worst case is using non-shadow spells like dispels versus blood elf paladins (nerf that talent). That would be a 10% missrate with no hitrating on gear (assuming the paladin cleanses your Misery). Is it worth getting all that +hit for? Naah. 4% I could see myself getting to to be able to dispel solidly without Misery up.

[Nezoia]

or do I forget something?

Everything it seems.

The required amount of spellhit to hit another level 70 opponent in PvP is 9%. Before gear and talent modifiers.

Is it worth getting all that +hit for?

Depends on playstyle, team setup, ranking, and bracket.

No global answer, I just told the value.

[Kuja04]

wow, haven't seen so many wrong answers in a while. (Anglarana is right btw)

[unknownsock]

The hit is 16% now since wrath since the 1% cap on spells still hitting, got removed. af 5% in PvP.

[Lostprophet]

wow, haven't seen so many wrong answers in a while. (Anglarana is right btw)

Op asked a few questions...
Anglarana just answered one

Worshake did answer all of this... and i still dont know how u got this 9% number nezo

btw ur old avatar were better

[Kuja04]

I guess the worst case is using non-shadow spells like dispels versus blood elf paladins (nerf that talent). That would be a 10% missrate with no hitrating on gear (assuming the paladin cleanses your Misery). Is it worth getting all that +hit for? Naah. 4% I could see myself getting to to be able to dispel solidly without Misery up.

Misery can't be dispelled.

[Nezoia]

and i still dont know how u got this 9% number nezo

Elitist Jerks (Your source is as good as mine )

[Anglarana]

with 1% from draenei and 6% from talents is 10% needed = 263 rating, not 290

You are completely correct. I totally forgot to calculate the 1% from Draenai in there.