i need a new specc to tank and i believe the best DK Tank specc is Frost as it is the most +threat and aoe 1 out of the rest.
all dk tanks link your speccs plz
i need a new specc to tank and i believe the best DK Tank specc is Frost as it is the most +threat and aoe 1 out of the rest.
all dk tanks link your speccs plz
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http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...enar&n=Ynloeth
mine. best overall tank spec ive found so far,for threat gen and survivbility - on the spell dmg mitigation front - i have a different spec used for such encounters[ for those naysayers on shit like imp icy talons]. (respecced 55 times so far for over 2700g)
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-t...ir&n=Grimnight
I had been frost for a long time, and i just recently went unholy. it is MUCH better. The major loss from frost is 3% miss from frigid deathplate. Bone shield > unbreakable armor, and Unholy blight is about the same as Howling blast. Speccing in corpse explosion is a matter of preference, but unholy is the way to go because bone shield is so ridiculous glyphed, even with the nerf if u have any good gear at all.
Since no1 came with a Blood Specc:
I've been tanking with this specc Sarth 3D with no problem at all, very good TPS (5 to 7K sustained, with hysteria higher if needed, else i save it for rogue or dps warrior)
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...Outland&n=Tiwo
But if your new to tanking, I advice going Unholy, since its good for trash tanking/Heroic tanking, something like the post above me, even though I would choose some other talents, but thats personal.
i found unholy to be an inferior aoe tanking spec except on sartharion 2/3d due to the slow threat gen compared to hb.
Originally Posted by Flowsz
Blood is great for single target tanking. It lacks majorly in AoE tanking, however.
I don't mean to be rude, but I can't believe you even play a DK to make this statement.Originally Posted by grimdestroyer
Originally Posted by taek
i agree taek.
Howling Blast is a high Direct Damage spell designed to (in the case of tanking) frontload a lot of aoe threat.
Unholy blight is a PASSIVELY activated ability costing 40 runic power that deal damage over time (20 seconds) the damage also is facilitated by usually crypt fever and ebon plaguebringer for increased tps/dps.
Most trash pulls where aoe tanking is needed are over in less than 30 seconds, and there is a high amount of threat put out by dps very fast, this is where howling blast shines particularly, though UB and unholy tanks can manage well enough.
The usefulness in unholy blight comes into play on fights such as Gothik the Harvester and most especially, as an aoe tank on Sartharion [particularly with multiple drakes up) The passive nature of Unholy blight allows an unholy tank to build threat on anything within its range while being able to focus and gather more mobs to him.
HB is much better for high threat situations where you need the high aoe threat fast, unholy blight shines in those longer fights where attention on many mobs appearing at different times and places is needed.
in short, HB and UB are NOTHING alike except the fact that they are AoE tools.
on another note in referenec ot my current spec: I found that this spec is best for both aoe AND single target threat generation [which at my gear lvl is the problem] i have not had any threat gen problems at all since taking the spec as my all round tank spec a couple months ago.
- i found unholy lacking in single target threat compared to this spec, and blood vice versa, lacking on the aoe threat.
Granted the things you can do with death knight talents are quite amazing (makes for a huge amount of viable tanking specs) i have found certain specs better for certain things - my current spec is what i found ot be the best for overall tanking.
Well if you want good AE threat then this i what i would recommend...
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...h=041709060504
If you are going to be tanking heroics or off-tanking Naxx this is DEFINITELY the way to go. Frost is good but it takes a while to build AE threat and right now BS>>>>>>>UBA (though that is being address it is still inferior for the time being). This spec is king for AE and you will have NO problems with single target threat either. I know some people swear by frost but i just dont get it... Unholy's AE is just flat out better and single target you will go the entire fight keeping some sort of mitigation cooldown up infedinitely. Flame away but this is the best tanking spec i've played and Yes, i've tried frost for heroics and WG.
And in case you all are wondering I actually MUCH prefer playing frost over unholy for DPS but as far as tanking goes it just cant compare (at the Nax10/dungeon heroics level at least, idk about sarth 3d ect)... that's my opinion.
@ elfporn... The problem with frost is that you need diseases on the targets and unless you drop DND as an opener your going to lose agro on the mobs because DPS aren't going to wait for you to "build threat" and so you run into a situation where you either
A) drop DND to open and have to wait 10 seconds for runes to refresh before you can HB and hope that DND+weak diseases are enough to hold agro until then or;
B) open with spreading diseases to get your HB in the first rune rotation and your DPS/Heals pull agro off of you before you can get off the HB or pull some of the mobs off you before you finish the 3 gcds to spread the diseases and then HB hits for nothing cause they dont have frost fever or aren't in range.
If you are running heroics and naxx with geared DPS imo frost doesn't cut it (and at this point in the game you can assume that most people are over-gearing the content).
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http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...n=DiablomortisOriginally Posted by InfamousRágé
almost done with gear completely (except for helm) and i go 10/51/10. I MT and OT naxx and never have a problem with threat with my frost build, I prefer it to unholy for AoE threat and I prefer it to blood for the same reason + the slightly less spiky damage.
You'd have a difficult time making a "bad" tanking spec after you 5/5/5, so it really comes down to your preference and your raid. Do you raid with a shaman? If so, no need for IIT, situational things like that.
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Well honestly with 3.1 comming out and the switch between gargoyle and unholy blight, you will be able to get Unholy blight AND howling blast. When the patch comes out that is probibly going to be a great spec. Also if they realy are juggling the frost tallents around there may be a good tripple hybrid spec too.
When people say "pls" just because its shorter then "please", I feel totally justified to say "No" just because its shorter then "Yes".
I saw this message and thought to myself "this guy knows nothing, his spec definately isn't the best, because mine is."Originally Posted by elfporn
I clicked it, and you have the exact same spec I do. LOL I came up with this spec on my own as well..
I guess it goes without saying, Great minds think alike haha
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...rk+Iron&n=Akea Is a link to me.
I have an Unholy spec for Sarth 3 Drakes.
Post yours, I'm interested to see.Originally Posted by Gamehenge
Edit:
For your info, Morbidity is for AoE aggro. Trash mostly.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=j0EZGxxzhed0GoVssx0gOriginally Posted by Akea
That's the build i use for tanking.
KM >> Morbidity for aoe threat on everything except sarth 3d add tanking where the consistent aoe tps from dnd is better than the rng chance of km in my opinion.
Is that spec you are currently your tank spec? 4/5 Icy talons wtf?? Rune tap without the imp talents? There's your 5 points for killing machine right there.
I'd never use that spec. No improved DnD makes it a longer cooldown, and no point in Endless Winter. Wasted Talents. Pick up morbidity imo, and drop Endless winter. Killing Machine.. I don't think its needed with Rime and Anhillation. Rune Strike is already more then enough threat, you don't need Killing Machine imo.Originally Posted by Gamehenge