if you understand haste, how do you explainOriginally Posted by zuxia
in direct response to someone saying AOE spells benefit from haste.I can only think of one spell where it would help an AOE, but the AOE is result of release of the dot and that is warlock seed, I should have stated haste does not benefit channeled aoe spells or instant aoe spells for better clarification.
this suggests that you have no clue about neither the gcd aspect of haste nor the channeld effect.
if you did , youd KNOWN that writing this would be falacious.
stop lying. always with the "thats not what i wrote" i know better attitude. watch what you write, dont be wrong that often, and maybe people wouldnt need to disect your posts!
additionaly, i asked for relevant links, because i couldnt find something REALY definitive on elitist. there where some numbers thrown in the room, but neither major testing, and some of the numbers where (partly aknowledge by at least one source) actualy "off"
you provide me with two IRRELEVANT ones , one absolutly useless and the otherone with faulty theoraycraft, and but the burden back on me again?
i thought you had passed your BA? is that what "providing sources" is like in your education?
if you have all the great sources for the disection of the comparision of both enchants, put em up, i cant tell you where you went wrong unless you ARGUE your case, instead of citing invisible sources and caliming "because".
what do you want? me finding YOUR sources? tried that, didnt yeald sufficient data. proving the absence of your sources is actualy not practicable, i wont copy paste every tidbit i found about this and tell you why its not relevant, i did so with the two links you provided.
if you do not understand the concept of providing sources to your claim, pls stop posting.
Since this is a thread about the viability of tailoring, you yourself moved the goalpost by arguing that ANY improvment between haste and lightweave is of any relevance here.
your argument is falacious. especialy the wording.
yeah lightweave is better, but it isnt "per definition" its based on the gear/spec/encounter. and the increase in dps is arguable (and IS argued alot).
in alot of the threads i encountered wrong numbers were supplied by people like you, who convey halftruths to make a point.
citing 90-100 dps for lightweave is falacious and mostly directed towards encounters with atypical abilitys, and is likely followed up by a mathtrick comparing "%tal increase" of haste vs an absolut dps increase for lightweave. (since on +damage bosses haste's %tual influence on your dps is still linear, but due to the enhanced DPS the dps effect of haste is AS enhanced as lightweaves dps (both by the factor of the bosses ability).
lightweave IS unarguably more effective in movement intensive fights where running = lesscasts / ~47 secs (2 secs for mean time of reproc)
lightweave may be partialy better than haste, but its ONLY better in one on one comparision, which is undoubtedly of actualy NO CONCERN to this topic.
and actualy its irelevant anyway.
because a player who STAYS tailor, and is using the haste enchant needs to be dragged out and shot. the comparision HAS to be haste + decent proffession, and the effect is already measurably higher than the difference between "FAIR" lightweave/haste comps.
so for the purpose of this thread.
lightweave might be an increase for you, depending on your gear and the encoutners you play, arguably better for some casters than others, but this effect is miniscule (and thus ignorable) to the alternatives.
your complete argument HAS to be along the line of "mh , lighweave is alot better than haste, and although other jobs are better, its only marginaly"
otherwise why did you even JOIN this thread.