Holy, unholy presence Batman!

[Kelsier]

"Unholy Aura (Tier 7) renamed Improved Unholy Presence and changed to: While in Blood Presence or Frost Presence, you retain 8/15% increased movement speed from Unholy Presence, and your runes finish their cooldowns 5/10% faster in Unholy Presence."

Faster rune cooldown, am I over anticipating the value of this when used with haste?

Thoughts?

Kelsier

[Bullshifter]

Haste still won't affect your Rune cooldowns, at best this is a 10% increase to your dps when you're in Unholy Presence, and in the real world probably less, because of the hidden rune mechanic. Blood presence (so far- testing ensues, lol...) appears to still be better. From initial testing by Aldy over at EJ:

Did/doing some testing right now on the PTR:

1) Imp. Unholy Presence is not as good as it seems.

Test 1:
rune CD for single rune in BP: 10 seconds
rune CD w/ Imp UP: 9 seconds
Therefore the talent is working

Test 2:
IT spam on a lvl 65 test dummy (no chance of miss), looking at timing on first frost rune (burning the 2nd as well); 270ms latency
10 first frost runes in BP: 93 seconds
10 first frost runes w/ imp UP: 90 seconds

The 10 in BP should take 100 seconds. I repeated this a few times and got the same results. If you are hitting runes as they refresh (which you can do with 2h unholy because its not too crammed for GCDs) then the rune refresh is actually shorter than 10 seconds (remember that window that Blizzard built in for latency). The one second reduction in rune CD only appears to work on rune refreshes that are the full 10 second duration. Ideally this should be tested with an actual rotation, but you can't really do that because of the RNG of SS glyph. Regardless, the benefit from Imp. UP is going to be less than a 10% improvement in rune CD in most situations for this build. There is still the question of how much you value personal run speed though.

Keep in mind that this is just initial testing. Doesn't look like it outweighs the +15% bonus to damage from Blood Presence just yet.

[Kelsier]

Thanks, that is exactly the kind of thing that I was wondering.

Man this is a great community!

[Nyanmaru]

if everything works out "perfect" and you don't stick to the 4 pc T7 because you get your T8 pieces in and so you haven't got a butload of RP to use Imp. UH Pres would mean:

15% less "disease based" dps
15% less "rune power based" dps
0,2% less "rune based" dps
no change in "white hit based" dps

100% + 15% Blood presence = 115% / 20 sec = 5,75% dps
100% / 18 sec = 5,55% dps

just one the paper Imp. UH pres. would own B pres. once you had as much GCD as you would hit 24s+ in B pres. to get all the 16+ GCDs in the 20s time window...

IMHO: atm it's just for PvP