Arms Tank in Ulduar

[Merham]

I was thinking about this specc

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warr...2&version=9658

I would pretty much spam revenge cause its CD is gone because of the arms talent and dont ya think this specc will do pretty moderate dmg t00?

Have you ever seen a raid tank using bladestorm?? that would be cool.I'm looking forward to see more tanks using this specc in 3.1 ^^

PS: I made an account just to post this specc cause i wanted to share it with you all

[lonewuhf]

I was thinking about this specc

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warr...2&version=9658

I would pretty much spam revenge cause its CD is gone because of the arms talent and dont ya think this specc will do pretty moderate dmg t00?

Have you ever seen a raid tank using bladestorm?? that would be cool.I'm looking forward to see more tanks using this specc in 3.1 ^^

PS: I made an account just to post this specc cause i wanted to share it with you all

Doesn't seem like you totally grasp the concept of tanking, and how it's done.

[supershred]

that is a super dumb idea for a prot spec lol

[K21Nova]

You're missing way too many tanking talents for anyone to call that a tanking spec.

[Merham]

that is a super dumb idea for a prot spec lol

It's not a prot specc its an arms specc 8)

[lonewuhf]

It's not a prot specc its an arms specc 8)

Which is why it fails as a tanking spec.

[Moriroken]

Depending on what gear you have, you MAY be able to tank some heroics (again, assuming you're close to, if not at the max level gear). You could even tank them with a 2 hander. Heck, you might even be able to tank a naxx 10 run, depending on your group and healers. This also assumes you fully understand all the intracacies of tanking these zones, and your dps and healers know what THEY are doing.

However, seeing as you're suggesting this spec for tanking Ulduar, I'm guessing you don't have the necessary knowledge to do that (you may have the gear, but that hardly means much nowadays). You will be squashed so quickly, but worse than that, your threat generation will suck, which means that the DPS will have to pull back on their damage, meaning bosses will eventually enrage because the overall DPS is too low ... I hope I don't need to go on, and that you get the point.

Use the tree designed for tanking to tank the top level (at least at this stage) raid, and leave the DPS trees alone to do DPS.

[Kexmeister]

If you had to make a failspec with Unrelenting Assault, why not make it like this one?

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warr...2&version=9658

It still fails, and is missing alot of key talents - But i don't see why you would spec for Bladestorm if your intention was to spam Revenge O.o

[Maboroshi]

It still fails, and is missing alot of key talents

Don't post it then... It still is an arm specc.

To the OP:
Why would you like to "tank" with an arm specc??? What do you need? To tank or to DPS?
With that kind of specc, you won't tank nor DPS effectively... So... What's the point?
And what would be your stuff? Def oriented or DPS?

Nah, honestly, you should forget that specc. The reason why we put some points in arms as a prot specc, isn't really for DPS. This is for threat first, the DPS is a bonus.
You have to make choice and think "utility" for raids. For now, nobody would and should take you in Naxx and even in heroics. Your DPS will be as bad as a healer which have a roll, not to DPS but to heal.
A tank should be a tank not a DPS and if you're worried about your DPS as a tank, then reroll DK or Druids.
And having three different trees doesn't mean that you "HAVE" to put points in each of them. Even for hybrid classes, it is useless to put points half/half. You just put some additionnal points to another tree to improve/optimize/support your first specc.

[Cowboi]

'Duel Spec'

1 tank spec
1 dps spec

get rid of the hybrid spec.

[Moriroken]

'Duel Spec'

1 tank spec
1 dps spec

get rid of the hybrid spec.

There you have it.

Thread over

[proga]

maybe only this is some sort of viable spec:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LAbIz...R0bZZVctrx0zid

[D-Rex]

tanking isnt being able to hold aggro while dealing as much damage as possible its about holding aggro whilte taking as little damage as possible, your spec is just flawed, i cant even call it a tank spec, if you dont know how to play the class just copy those who do

[Battousai]

tanking isnt being able to hold aggro while dealing as much damage as possible its about holding aggro whilte taking as little damage as possible, your spec is just flawed, i cant even call it a tank spec, if you dont know how to play the class just copy those who do

Harsh

See 2 posts up. If there wasn't any way to switch specs basically whenever you wanted...the thought alone would have merit. But, with the introduction of duel specs...it really doesn't make sense to even think about it anymore.

[heerobya]

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[ultimateriser]

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[Dreadtard]

I love how people will just comment and call others idiots about something they have never tried.

I have tried a similar spec as this and it's not that bad with decent gear (mine was only half decent lol). It's great for heroics because of the buff to physical dps and bleeds. The revenge stun also rocks in heroics and dont forget the revenge glyph for free heroic strikes (free up 3 pts from improved HS and put in tactical Mastery). I would recommend taking improved thunderclap because that is your main source of aoe tanking.

Controlling multiple mobs is a little harder because of lack of shockwave and rage can be limited on first pulls. Tab and revenge is ur best friend. Save your bladestorm as an oh shit button when u are losing aggro on multiple mobs.

I wouldn't recommend arms tanking for raid MT but it's definitely viable as an OT. I have successfully OT on KT 10man in similar spec.

Hope that helps

Edit: Oh and anyone know if you can get hit in your back while bladestorming? If so might not be so hot on hard hitting mobs then

[proga]

But in spec that TS offered you will do not more DPS than 15/5/51 prot warrior in DPS gear, and at same time you'll be worse tank than again 15/5/51 prot warrior. What's the point of that spec?

[Dreadtard]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warr...3&version=9658

This was my spec. A little less than Arms dps because of lack of improved execute and AttT. This will probably be my 2nd spec after Arms pvp (fingers crossed for decent buffs).

And my reason for this spec? I can run heroics as both dps or tank. Was once dpsing H UK with a crap protadin. wiped twice on last boss. I just tanked the boss myself cos i didn't want to make that run up there again.

[Maboroshi]

Save your bladestorm as an oh shit button when u are losing aggro on multiple mobs.

Bladestorm? You mean that you put 51 pts in Arms then... It means that you have 20 pts left for prot...
Have you talked to healers? What do they think? They need to heal you more than a "conventionnal" tank i.e. they get oom sooner. So they have to regen between trash mobs...
If your healers have a decent gear, that wouldn't be a problem but it's way much easier with a real tank.

Don't forget that you have three different trees that gives you a role in a raid. You won't be a tank just because you're wearing gears with def. You know, there's many items in mail with def stat on it but it doesn't and will never make a shaman or a hunter a tank...

And don't tell me that onyxia have already been tanked by a shaman with def gear. I'm aware of that, but it's called a challenge, not the way it have to be.