Blackout - Like Impact?

[Jaska]

Impact isn't worth losing Arcane Barrage or Deep Freeze in PvP.

You do realize that there's easily enough talent points to afford both 3/3 Impact -and- Arcane Barrage or Deep Freeze?

[Jaska]

I do not use it in PVP because I get enough damage without using it so using it would only kill me faster, while still not doing enough damage.

It breaks Polymorph if you time it right, which is quite neat.

Give it a chance to stun, a chance to do anything, or remove the backlash, or remove the cooldown, something. The spell sounded so sweep upon entering Hellfire Peninsula, but has gone a long way down since then. It should really be useful again because the concept of the spell is a good one.

I agree, it's sad to see a good spell idea go to waste like that.

[Pewpewarrows]

Too much RNG stuns in PvP is a bad thing. I much prefer having a controlled Psychic Horror to use.

Pretty much the only thing holding us back from a really nice balance in PvP in 3.1 is the Body and Soul talent. Blizzard really needs to make that baseline or very low in the Disc or Holy trees.

[AetherMcLoud]

Pretty much the only thing holding us back from a really nice balance in PvP in 3.1 is the Body and Soul talent. Blizzard really needs to make that baseline or very low in the Disc or Holy trees.

Beware! So much awesomeness in one patch could very well lead to a time-space distortion.

[Abandon]

You do realize that there's easily enough talent points to afford both 3/3 Impact -and- Arcane Barrage or Deep Freeze?

You do realise that it is not possible to spec for Deep Freeze and Improved Counterspell and also get Impact?

I would say extra armor, extra magic resistance, improved dampen magic and dispel resistance would be better than a completely random stun that you have no control over. The four second silence on Counterspell would usually be better than a 2 second anyway.

[Jaska]

You do realise that it is not possible to spec for Deep Freeze and Improved Counterspell and also get Impact?

I would say extra armor, extra magic resistance, improved dampen magic and dispel resistance would be better than a completely random stun that you have no control over. The four second silence on Counterspell would usually be better than a 2 second anyway.

Yes, I realize that. I didn't say it was preferable to spec into Impact for a Deep Freeze Mage, I was just pointing out that it is actually possible.

[Abandon]

True. It is possible to PVP as full fire, too, but that is also a terrible idea.

[Jaska]

True. It is possible to PVP as full fire, too, but that is also a terrible idea.

Most definately.

[ItachiZaku]

I was actually amazed at the amount of times I was saved due to Touch of Weakness/Blackout combination. Sometimes you just couldn't get away, pushback was horrible, PS was on CD and then a blackout proc off ToW spam.

Now, hope they don't see you and nuke from a distance.

[dreamwalker]

who the fuck plays fire pvp anyway? if you're arcane you go frost for IV, if you're frost you take imp. CS

dead mages lul

[gaymer77]

It breaks Polymorph if you time it right, which is quite neat.

I have to retract my statement. I do use SW in pvp but only vs a mage right before a poly goes off but if his damn images are out its hard to time it with the randomness they have...yes I know you find the mage with more than 2500 HP and mindsear to kill the images but sometimes they get their sheep off before you can do that lol.

[Abandon]

Next patch the mirror images no longer use sheep.

[AetherMcLoud]

Next patch the mirror images no longer use sheep.

R E A L L Y?

That would be an awesome change. Sheeping mirror images are one of the most imba things in arena...

[Abandon]

More evidence Blizzard don't want RNG winning arenas. They were really annoying though sometimes, and unuseable on certain bosses because of their random sheeping.