Impurity

[Lorkanus]

Something I didn't find yet. Sometimes dk strikes are mentioned as spells.

Does Impurity increase the damage of frost strike and scourge strike?
Both deal non-physical damage, therefore it could work.

[Unholyground]

yes it does. Impurity actually isn't a make or break talent either, its rather underpowered for a 5 point talent.

[jshrlzwrld02]

If I'm not mistaken that talent only works on abilities that says "Deals X% Weapon Damage AS Frost/Shadow" correct?

[Zao]

I'd have to check that, but afaik FS and SS are NOT counted as spells (they use the melee hitcap, can be dodged and parried [in the case of SS that is])

IT, DC and HB are spells (not sure about UB, Pest, BB).

[Unholyground]

DC, D&D, IT, BB, HB, Pestilence(until 3.1), Frost F, Blood P. Are all effected by Spell power increases.

[daBz]

anyone know if it affects Gnomish lightning generator aswell?

[Talamare]

It increases AP coefficient by 25%

So anything based solely on AP should be increased

*google searches DK AP coefficient*

Anti-Magic Zone ____ 2
Blood Boil _________ 0.04
Blood Plague _______ 0.055
Bloodworms _________ 0.006 *
Corpse Explosion ___ 0.105
Death and Decay ____ 0.0475
Death Coil _________ 0.15
Frost Fever ________ 0.055
Howling Blast ______ 0.1
Summon Gargoyle ____ 0.333¯ (Gargoyle Strike) **
Icy Touch __________ 0.1
Pestilence _________ 0.04
Strangulate ________ 0.06
Unholy Blight ______ 0.013


They all should be increased by Impurity

[greenttich]

...list...
They all should be increased by Impurity

Yep. Strike damage is not increased by AP directly (although it is indirectly through your weapon damage).

Not 100% sure if this applies to gargoyle strike though as it works slightly differently (scales from the AP you have when you summon the gargoyle). It would need to be tested I guess

[Sithlord87m]

everything you cant do while silenced is a spell.
you can SS and FS while silenced.
End of story

[Unholyground]

everything you cant do while silenced is a spell.
you can SS and FS while silenced.
End of story

Ya basically lol, I still think impurity is a bit underpowered. Should be 50%

[Snes]

Ya basically lol, I still think impurity is a bit underpowered. Should be 50%

I agree, it's not a bad talent, but it's highly overrated. If it were additive rather than multiplicative it would be good.

[Talamare]

The "only" reason howling blast became a 51 talent is to keep it away from over powered builds that took impurity with it

Even a blue said this, but Im not going to bother looking for it

[Gomexus]

The "only" reason howling blast became a 51 talent is to keep it away from over powered builds that took impurity with it

Even a blue said this, but Im not going to bother looking for it

That's funny, HB hits harder with Tundra Stalker than it does with Impurity...10% more dmg>25% extra ap.

[psicorp]

That's funny, HB hits harder with Tundra Stalker than it does with Impurity...10% more dmg>25% extra ap.

it does, but i think the trade off is supposed to be the extra points you have to throw away in frost to get up there. least as far as i understand the philosophy of you godless heathens who never learned the beauty of frost strike

[Talamare]

275 (base)
4000 AP (400+10% vs 500) [675+10%vs775]

Black Ice - 30%
Glacier Rot 10%
Tundra Stalker 10%
Frost Fever 200%

675 * 2 * 1.3 * 1.1 * 1.1 = 2123
775 * 2 * 1.3 * 1.1 = 2216.5

Math FTW

[Gomexus]

Talamare is right it does hit a lil harder with Impurity I was mistaken...where Tundra Stalker builds win is having Guile of Gorefiend so the crits hit much harder...with HB having a 50% or so crit chance due to KM procs the overall dmg output is still in favor of deep frost instead of Impurity builds for the dmg output of HB specifically.

[Talamare]

Talamare is right it does hit a lil harder with Impurity I was mistaken...where Tundra Stalker builds win is having Guile of Gorefiend so the crits hit much harder...with HB having a 50% or so crit chance due to KM procs the overall dmg output is still in favor of deep frost instead of Impurity builds for the dmg output of HB specifically.

44/27

[neonanaski]

44/27

Going to assume he is talking post 3.1

[Talamare]

275 (base)
4000 AP (400+10% vs 500) [675+10%vs775]

Black Ice - 30%
Glacier Rot 10%
Tundra Stalker 10%
Frost Fever 200%

675 * 2 * 1.3 * 1.1 * 1.1 = 2123
775 * 2 * 1.3 * 1.1 = 2216.5

Math FTW

Margin can get fairly wide, lets add +3% All damage and +13% Spell Damage, Raid buffs
Also lets up the AP to 8000, fully buffed, with mirror and 670ap and more

275 (base)
8000 AP (800+10% vs 1000) [1075+10%vs1275]
1075 * 2 * 1.3 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.03 * 1.13 * 2.45 = 9643
1275 * 2 * 1.3 * 1.1 * 1.03 * 1.13 * 2.45 = 10398

750 damage difference