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    Shadow best slot shadow pre 3.1 and in 3.1

    make a list of the best in slot for shadow priests
    as of now ---
    and in 3.1----

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    Re: Shadow best slot shadow pre 3.1 and in 3.1

    www.shadowpriest.com is your friend

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    Re: Shadow best slot shadow pre 3.1 and in 3.1

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...san&n=Strykzor

    +Heedless Magic
    +Wanton Spellcaster
    +Accursed Spine
    +Rationality

    This Uses as little spirit as possible.
    6 points over hit cap (assuming draenei, which every good raid has)
    otherwise use Gemmed Wand of the Nerubians.
    Assuming JC/Enchanting

    The the final stats are.
    2197 Spellpower (no innerfire/Illusion)
    17.5% Crit or 479 Crit Rating
    13.45% Haste or 441 Haste Rating.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Barthilas&n=Strykie

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    Re: Shadow best slot shadow pre 3.1 and in 3.1

    3.0.8

    Hood of Rationality
    Wyrmrest Necklace of Power
    Mantle of Dissemination
    Penance Cloak
    Gown of the Spell-Weaver
    Unsullied Cuffs
    Torch of Holy Fire
    Accursed Spine
    Gemmed Wand of the Nerubians (Horde) / Plague Igniter (Alliance - Assuming 1% Draenei hit buff).
    Valourous Handwraps of Faith
    Leach of Heedless Magic
    Leggings of the Wartorn Spellcaster
    Arcanic Tramplers
    Signet of Manifested Pain
    Lost Jewel / (Titanium Spellshock Ring - Apparently better in 3.1)
    Dying Curse
    Illustration of the Dragon Soul

    3.1.0 (For Horde, not calculated for Alliance)

    Conqueror's Circlet of Sanctification
    Pendant of Fiery Havoc
    Conqueror's Mantle of Sanctification
    Drape of Mortal Downfall
    Conqueror's Raiments of Sanctification
    Bracers of Unleashed Magic
    Staff of Endless Winter
    Scepter of Lost Souls
    Handwraps of the Vigilant
    Sash of Ancient Power (Crafted!)
    Conqueror's Pants of Sanctification
    Boots of Fiery Resolution
    Signet of Manifested Pain
    Shimmering Seal
    Flare of the Heavens
    Illustration of the Dragon Soul

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    Re: Shadow best slot shadow pre 3.1 and in 3.1

    The above is only true if you don't use Shadow Word: Death. If you do use Shadow Word: Death regularly, critical rating is much more useful than haste.
    These are currently the best in slots with SW scaling.

    Hood of Rationality
    Wyrmrest Necklace of Power
    Valorous Mantle of Faith
    Pennant Cloak
    Gown of the Spell-Weaver
    Unsullied Cuffs
    Torch of Holy Fire
    Surplus Limb
    Gemmed Wand of the Nerubians
    Sundial of the Exiled
    Illustration of the Dragon Soul
    Signet of Manifested Pain
    Band of Channeled Magic
    Arcanic Tramplers
    Leggings of the Wanton Spellcaster
    Leash of Headless Magic
    Valorous Handwraps of Faith

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    Re: Shadow best slot shadow pre 3.1 and in 3.1

    Quote Originally Posted by zsuper
    The above is only true if you don't use Shadow Word: Death. If you do use Shadow Word: Death regularly, critical rating is much more useful than haste.
    These are currently the best in slots with SW scaling.

    Hood of Rationality
    Wyrmrest Necklace of Power
    Valorous Mantle of Faith
    Pennant Cloak
    Gown of the Spell-Weaver
    Unsullied Cuffs
    Torch of Holy Fire
    Surplus Limb
    Gemmed Wand of the Nerubians
    Sundial of the Exiled
    Illustration of the Dragon Soul
    Signet of Manifested Pain
    Band of Channeled Magic
    Arcanic Tramplers
    Leggings of the Wanton Spellcaster
    Leash of Headless Magic
    Valorous Handwraps of Faith
    Posts like these make me cry.

    SWD FAILS, The fact the boss has to be <35% (glyph) AND the 4 set would make it decent.
    The amount of Bad itemization on t7 and the abundance of ilvl 226 cloth items makes t7 not worth going for.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Barthilas&n=Strykie

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    Re: Shadow best slot shadow pre 3.1 and in 3.1

    Quote Originally Posted by Strykzor
    Posts like these make me cry.

    SWD FAILS, The fact the boss has to be <35% (glyph) AND the 4 set would make it decent.
    The amount of Bad itemization on t7 and the abundance of ilvl 226 cloth items makes t7 not worth going for.
    Are you kidding me? If you stack a bit more Crit Rating and use Shadow Wordeath to fill extra GCDs that you have during your spell priorities (i.e. when you don't have enough time to cast a full Mind Flay between Dot refreshes/Mind Blast cooldowns), it adds a nice boost to your DPS. I have been doing so since Wrath released, and with each new gear upgrade I've gotten, I've noticed a definite increase in damage. This being without 'wasting' a Glyph slot on the SW Glyph or the T7 4 piece set bonus, which IMHO isn't worth it.

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    Re: Shadow best slot shadow pre 3.1 and in 3.1

    If you go for 4x t7 and swd glyph, you lose shitloads of spellpower and haste you would have gotten otherwise. SWD isn't worth it, and the comments saying "it's a filler" is complete bullshit, since there's only a few fights where you are required to move like nuts (thaddius, sarth 3d) and only an idiot would risk blowing himself up for that extra spit of a dps.

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    Re: Shadow best slot shadow pre 3.1 and in 3.1

    once you get into about the 3 item in slot there isn't much of a change in dps. (well unless you're talking about trinkets). the scaling with our gear in best in slot scenarios is pitiful compared to other classes. and the chance that you're going to get that set is crap anyway.

    also i wanna add in terms hit rating gear if you're draenei or can reliably gear for a draenei in group.
    heigan's putrid vestments is not a bad pickup compared to gown of the spellweaver.

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    Re: Shadow best slot shadow pre 3.1 and in 3.1

    Quote Originally Posted by Flyingmoo
    I think you'll find the best raids don't have a Draenei :P

    Anyway, www.shadowpriest.com has all the best in slot gear listed
    For alliance obviously.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Barthilas&n=Strykie

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    Re: Shadow best slot shadow pre 3.1 and in 3.1

    And everybody just stroll entirely over the list where I actually noted the alliance & horde differences

    And people, if you're going to post shadowpriest.com links to the best-in-slot stuff, you might as well post the REAL links.

    Gear List: http://www.shadowpriest.com/viewtopi...158170#p158170

    Best In Slot (Horde): http://www.shadowpriest.com/viewtopi...178742#p178742

    Quote Originally Posted by zsuper
    The above is only true if you don't use Shadow Word: Death. If you do use Shadow Word: Death regularly, critical rating is much more useful than haste. These are currently the best in slots with SW scaling.
    I'm wondering, why did you pick a gear set up that gives more haste, and less crit, if you're saying more crit is better ?

    - Titanium Spellshock ring is better than Band of Channeled Magic, and gives more crit.
    - Accursed Spine is better than Surplus Limb.
    - Mantle of Dissemination is better than Valorous Mantle of Faith

    And if you want more crit, you could swap out Leash of Headless Magic, and Arcanic Tramplers for Cincture of Polarity and Boots of Persuasion.

    And for a proper gear set up, Dying Curse will be superior to Sundial of the Exiled, since it allows for so much better pieces.

    So your post is hardly thought well through, and you haven't analysed the maths behind the other gear rankings.

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    Re: Shadow best slot shadow pre 3.1 and in 3.1

    It isn't as simple as posting the 226 lvl gears and slap the BiS sticker onto it, you need to get hit capped as well. There are some gears that you need to swap around in order to meet the hit cap while getting the best spellpower/crit/haste out of it.

    Hit gears almost always lose out in terms of raw dps (lacking crit, haste, spellpower, etc), but you need them in order to get hitcapped. So the key is to find the gears that satisfy the hit required, while losing the least amount of raw PP possible.

    But anyway, the definitive Best in Slot:


    -Head-Hood of Rationality
    -Neck-Wyrmrest Necklace of Power (even though its only #2, it only loses out by 2 PP to Cosmic Lights while providing massive amount of hits, if your JC the 5 extra spellpower will make up for it)
    -Cloak-Pennant Cloak
    -Hand-Valorous Handwraps of Faith
    -Rings- Signet of Manifested Pain + Lost Jewel
    -Weapon- Torch of Holy Fire
    -Trinket - Illustration of Dragon Soul

    All other slots you need to plan a bit in order to make up for the hit cap, for example, Mantle of Dissemination is technically the BiS for shoulder, but when not hitcapped you're definitely better off with Valorous Mantle of Faith.

    Here are the slots with the BiS, and (BiS w/o hitcapped). (posting straight from Shadowpriest.com)

    Shoulder:
    -Mantle of Dissemination
    158.44 = 98+60*0.62+59*0.2+52*0.22
    -(Valorous Mantle of Faith)
    138.9(186.46) = 78+57*0.2+50*0.61+19+41*1.16

    Chest:
    -The Sanctums Flowing Vestements
    203.88 = 99+77*0.2+51*0.22+66*0.61+2*19
    -(Heigan's Putrid Vestements)
    183.51(240.35) = 99+77*0.2+51*0.61+2*19+49*1.16
    -(Gown of the Spell-Weaver)
    174(257.52) = 110+50*0.62+70*0.2+19+72*1.16

    Wrist:
    -Unsullied Cuffs
    123.06 = 64+46*0.2+46*0.22+34*0.61+19
    -(Bindings of the Expansive Mind)
    99.26(131.74) = 65+43*0.62+38*0.2+28*1.16

    Waist:
    -Leash of Heedless Magic
    163.38 = 103+60*0.2+48*0.22+62*0.61
    -(Cincture of Polarity)
    131.73(181.61) = 88+57*0.2+53*0.61+43*1.16

    Leg:
    -Leggings of Mortal Arrogance
    220.96 = 115+57*0.62+85*0.2+71*0.22+2*19
    -(Leggings of the Wanton Spellcaster)
    190.66(285.78) = 132+92*0.2+66*0.61+82*1.16

    Feet:
    -Arcanic Tramplers
    151.1 = 99+52*0.2+62*0.22+46*0.61
    -(Boots of Impetuous Ideals)
    132.95(175.87) = 88+57*0.2+55*0.61+37*1.16

    Off-Hand:
    -Accursed Spine
    106.9 = 65+43*0.62+41*0.2+32*0.22
    -(Surplus Limb)
    97.61(134.73) = 65+38*0.2+41*0.61+32*1.16

    Wands:
    -Plague Igniter
    60.48 = 37+24*0.62+21*0.2+20*0.22
    -(Gemmed Wand of the Nerubians)
    54.82(75.7) = 37+22*0.2+22*0.61+18*1.16

    Trinkets:
    -Sundial of the Exiled
    159.33 = 84*0.62+107.25
    -(Dying Curse)
    148(230.36) = 148+71*1.16

    Of course, there are some hit gears that are more attractive to others:
    Gemmed Wand, Dying Curse, Legging of Wanton Caster, Surplus Limb.
    They lose out relatively minor raw dps while providing good amount of hit to balance things out.

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    Re: Shadow best slot shadow pre 3.1 and in 3.1

    Best Gear setup is what i posted earlier (for alliance)

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Barthilas&n=Strykie

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    Re: Shadow best slot shadow pre 3.1 and in 3.1

    Quote Originally Posted by Flyingmoo
    I think you'll find the best raids don't have a Draenei :P
    Ofc, they dont raid with Shamans... eh who needs them? ..

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    Re: Shadow best slot shadow pre 3.1 and in 3.1

    Quote Originally Posted by hellar
    make a list of the best in slot for shadow priests
    as of now ---
    and in 3.1----
    make me a list of the best in slot for shadow priests
    as of now so I know what to spend my DKP on---
    and in 3.1 so you can tell me what to get there, too.---
    I shall die here. Every inch of me shall perish. Every inch, but one. An inch. It is small and it is fragile and it is the only thing in the world worth having. We must never lose it or give it away. We must never let them take it from us.

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    Re: Shadow best slot shadow pre 3.1 and in 3.1

    Quote Originally Posted by Abandon
    make me a list of the best in slot for shadow priests
    as of now so I know what to spend my DKP on---
    and in 3.1 so you can tell me what to get there, too.---
    sorry dont use DKP but thx

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    Re: Shadow best slot shadow pre 3.1 and in 3.1

    The gear I listed is best in slot using scaling values with SW in the rotation; crit is weighted more heavily than haste. Completely stacking crit isn't what I'm trying to do, I'm just saying crit is stronger for me than haste is because I use SW, which changes what is and isn't best in slot for me.
    The gear I listed sacrifices the least PP to become hit capped with the different scaling values.

    With SW in your rotation, the scaling values aren't 1.5:1:1. Since Simcraft no longer documents the SW rotation, I'd have to calculate what it currently is, and I don't have time for that right now.

    Anyone who follows Simcraft should know that the SW rotation has always been slightly higher to the no SW rotation, by as little as 20 DPS to as much as 60 DPS.
    Using Shadow Word: Death also gives you a higher percentage of Improved Spirit Tap uptime.
    The only downside to using SW is that it makes your DPS more subject to bad RNG.

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