The whole point of a border is to graphically make it clear when an element ends.
If the element and its border doesn't create a decent contrast, then you may as well not have the borders.
These may work for your Unit Frames, which are relatively bleak; but they do not work for the very dark bottom panels.
In-fact...I don't even like the use of that particular texture on your health and power bars.
The actual height of your bars is already so short that any shadowing inside the bar makes it appear even smaller.
Add to that the overlay of the text, you don't get much visual representation of the bars.
I would rethink the texture choice and go with something a bit more 1 dimensional.
Side notes: Remove the spacing for the debuff icons so that it mimics the buff auras and remove the shadow on your castbar text
I think people need to stop stating their opinion of personal taste as fact. If people want to use a different borders or shadows let them. Just because you prefer a more defined border or different textures doesn't mean it's crap and needs to change, it's their UI and they spent the time to make it, so it's obviously something they like and want it to look that way.
If everyone just did what someone else prefers then no UI would be unique and they all would look the same. I stopped posting because after a while of using people's suggestions things quickly turn into someone else's UI and not something I created and wanted.
Now I do support suggestions of placements and overall consistent look to a UI, but suggesting different textures or borders because your own taste is different is just plain stupid.
Are you trolling right now???
He ASKED people for their opinion...
I didn't tell him WHAT texture to use, I suggested he try a different type of texture in order to make the smaller health bars a bit more prominent.
I gave him a reason for every suggestion I made other than the side notes, and those don't need a reason b/c they are in reference to design consistency.
I don't think you're quite grasping the purpose of this thread.
Tree, sorry in advance for the derailment that is going to ensue.
I think you can make a strong case for simple things like borders or font choices being good or bad. The thing is: it doesn't matter. The game runs a slow enough pace that a UI that's "half as good" as ideal is still is efficient enough to do the job. You can be "sub optimal" in order to serve some aesthetic preference and it doesn't actually matter.
Think about it like qualifying for a race. You have to do one lap in at most 1 minute. If you're doing it in 30 seconds then you have plenty of time you can trade for "strutting" for the fans, taking it easy so you don't pull a muscle before the race, or just half assing because you're hungover from the per race party. So long as you can hit the qualify time it doesn't matter. Some people want to set a record qualify time, some want to look cool for the press. To each his/her own.
It's kinda funny to talk to "real nerds" with tweaked out Vim/zsh/etc setups. We can type at 120 words/minute, the editor is optimized to cut any action down to 5 keystrokes or less, but then we write maybe 5000 characters in an 8 hour work day. 95% of your day is waiting on compiles, tests, or thinking about what to do next. Just like wow-UI people super nerds like to justify it in terms of "more efficient" but really it's just fun to tinker and the gains are impossibly small or non existent. I'm guilty of it with my track bike (and I suspect everybody else that goes to secret street just likes to tinker and cant really tell the difference between an eigth turn of adjustment on their rear shocks too).
I wonder why we find it so hard to admit that this is just fun to play with and sometimes we do dumb things because we think it looks cool?
I recorded the first of a new UI series today: why my tank UI sucks and what we can learn from it. My new series will probably be a healing UI but I need to find a new guild to play with for 5.2 or it might end up crappy.
A good designer wants an interface to be as functionally efficient as possible, regardless of what the minimal requirements are to "do the job" that the interface is created to do.
Some people are satisfied with mediocrity and having the mindset that something is just "good enough."
I am not one of those people, I want something to be as good as it can be
As a side note, you have a nice voice for instructional videos :P
You come off very.. Self righteous.
If UIs were a religion you'd be the head preacher whose opinion is always correct.
OT: I believe regardless of textures it's not really anyones place to say they don't like their textures to the point of creating paragraphs as to why what they've chosen is wrong.
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Last edited by Rusk; 2013-02-14 at 10:13 AM.
It's down to the person creating and posting the UI to change what's suggested or keep it the way it is. You say you've stopped posting because you used too many peoples suggestions and the UI was no longer yours. That means you're the one responsible for the changes made. You don't have to use peoples suggestions because you can't please everybody. I've been told endlessly that the 3D portraits on my frames don't look right and the plain black texture looks better. I don't agree with it and I think the portrait adds a nice texture to the frame so I have kept them.
It's still my UI and it's still my decision on how I do things, I don't have to follow every suggestion posted, I just like to know what people think as I am sure most people who post their UI do.
And I assume your OT comment is directed at evn, as I don't create "paragraphs" in posts telling people they are wrong.
As my own OT: I like your accent
Seeing this new picture with the hp background showing, I def agree that the texture you currently have looks great! I wasn't expecting the contrast to be so high, I like it
This is why people should post combat screenshots, we could have avoided this whole texture mess all together hehe
Can't wait to see the rest!
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I don't know how many times I (and others *looks at Led*) have told care to lose the portraits, but he keeps them because he likes them and if it works for him then great, it doesn't make me like his Ui any less.
ps. care, lose the portraits :P