Shadow: Two points in Veiled Shadows?

[alclarity]

Veiled Shadows http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=15311

http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=34433#comments:id=676811

Shadowfiend as damage is somewhat plausible. Still a great source of mana when you are dry (hoping it doesn't get destroyed after its cast)

So in Shadow builds, is it worth 1 point, 2 points, or ZERO points.

Discuss.

[AetherMcLoud]

Always 2 for it's a straight manareg and dps increase.

[syanid]

Worth it.

[Simixiz]

Two points!

[Strykzor]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?prie...3&version=9767

Is the raiding pve spec atm, once content get s put on farm and bosses die faster u can move 2 points from Meditation to Imp VE.

[Valiane]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?prie...3&version=9767

Is the raiding pve spec atm, once content get s put on farm and bosses die faster u can move 2 points from Meditation to Imp VE.

you will still need the full talented meditation, also inner focus in just a luxury for us currently and wont be missed in 3.1

[syanid]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?prie...3&version=9767

Is the raiding pve spec atm, once content get s put on farm and bosses die faster u can move 2 points from Meditation to Imp VE.

Or get full Meditation and Imp. VE and drop Focused Mind completely. Like a SP ever goes oom, especially with changes to manaregen. Focused Mind seems utterly useless and Imp. VE = godsend for own survival.

[Nezoia]

'sup with the gimp builds?

Seriously, just skip Spirit Tap completely.

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?prie...3&version=9767

Also, 2/2 Vielded Shadows and Shadowfiend glyph.

[Deleted]

This is how I would spec:

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?prie...0&version=9767

I really don't see why you would spec anything else. Just seem stupid to me, I mean really is there anything to discuss?
Imp. Shadowform? Well try some bosses and see if u rly need it, if you do then go respec. I'm pretty sure I wont need it.
Full Shadow Reach? Well if u feel like u need it then swap a point from Inner Focus, Veiled Shadows or Imp. Vampiric Embrace. But really I find all of those talents better than reach.

[syanid]

This is how I would spec:

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?prie...0&version=9767

I really don't see why you would spec anything else. Just seem stupid to me, I mean really is there anything to discuss?
Imp. Shadowform? Well try some bosses and see if u rly need it, if you do then go respec. I'm pretty sure I wont need it.
Full Shadow Reach? Well if u feel like u need it then swap a point from Inner Focus, Veiled Shadows or Imp. Vampiric Embrace. But really I find all of those talents better than reach.

Why does anyone gimp his RANGE ffs.. ever heard of Mimiron?

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?prie...0&version=9767

I'm speccing this. Cba with Focused Mind, we got infinite mana as is anyway.

[paowderlol]

0/2

Then again i don't mind fade's cooldown since i rarely use it, and shadow fiend 2 min shorter cd? I can wait the extra 2 mins. Who needs mana regen and dps when you get carried in pve content.

[Phyreburn]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?prie...2&version=9767

I don't think Imp VE is worth it. Regular untalented VE should be fine as long as your healers aren't terribad

[Strykzor]

'sup with the gimp builds?

Seriously, just skip Spirit Tap completely.

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?prie...3&version=9767

Also, 2/2 Vielded Shadows and Shadowfiend glyph.

Shadow Affinity

L O L

[paowderlol]

L O L

Shadow affinity seems useless for pve, you shouldn't have aggro problems unless your tank doesn't know how to play.

Spirit tap > SA PvE wise.

[ItachiZaku]

Shadow Affinity

L O L

Only on Maly and ONLY if you are required to VE. I have yet to meet a tank that holds my agro in that encounter.

[syanid]

Only on Maly and ONLY if you are required to VE. I have yet to meet a tank that holds my agro in that encounter.

Try with someone who played as a tank more than 3 months. That should do it.

[Lostprophet]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?prie...0&version=9767


I could put the point out of Focused Mind and put it into Inner Focus. Shadow Affinity is still not needed, maybe there are fights where it is needed..

2/2 im VE did help alot yesterday and I wont miss it! I have enough Point to spend, so sure i will take it.. I didnt get below 50% mana (w/o using Dispersion) so Focused Mind is not needed..

[Lostprophet]

Only on Maly and ONLY if you are required to VE. I have yet to meet a tank that holds my agro in that encounter.

o_O

[syanid]

2/2 im VE did help alot yesterday and I wont miss it! I have enough Point to spend, so sure i will take it.. I didnt get below 50% mana (w/o using Dispersion) so Focused Mind is not needed..

2/2 Imp. VE + Imp. Shadowform + Conc. Aura = complete total win for Deconstructor, I was at 100% HP nearly the whole time without losing any dps time.

[Lostprophet]

2/2 Imp. VE + Imp. Shadowform + Conc. Aura = complete total win for Deconstructor, I was at 100% HP nearly the whole time without losing any dps time.

<3 ya Earthquake, whats that , does it dmg? Ok, Earthquake + this Yellow Glow thingi does hurt.. but this yellow shit doesnt get mitigated from the -15% Shadowform.. and even Dispersion didnt change the 3500dmg/2(?)s o_O bug or intended?